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    hmm..oil practicing

    i was wondering,what material should i practise oils on? i mean,i can't whip out a canvas everytime i want to practice,is it fine to just practice on paper or cardboard,I know oils will rot it to hell,but if its not for keep sakes does it matter.

    suggestions?

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    Use acrylic to lay the foundation and then paint on top of that. Paper tends to soak some of the oil contents, but with acrylic as the foundation it like painting on rubber then.
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    In my Oil studying I used the Winton Oil Colour Pad, which is acid free, canvas textured, and the gsm varys on what size you want. It comes in a green cover with a painting as a picture on the front.
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    If you use ordinary cartridge paper make sure to stretch the paper, then apply a layer of acrylic and then you can start.
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    It is also possible to use this acrylic layer as your underpainting.
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    On a canvas, use a piece of card (I use an old credit card type) to spread the acrylic for the prime. This makes the paint soak into the material and it makes the surface less slippery when painting in oils. I just did it the other day and it works alot better than just slapping the paint on. Dont let chunks of paint form, let it be a nice flat surface.

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    yeh i was thinking about painting the paper wtih acrylic first before starting,i don't think i'll use it for an underpainting though,i would like the underpainting to remain wet so i can get some relation with the other colours i use on top (one of the reasons i'm using oils is because the don't dry so damn fast)

    thanks for the help!

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    NP, I'm also learning this medium and know how tough it is to first start, can be daunting!

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    I think William Whittaker suggested practicing on sheets of artists vellum. You don't have to treat it at all, you can just got right on top of the "paper". I've never used it for oil painting but it has great qualities for inking... oh and it WILL NOT tear if you're life depended on it.

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    No, this stuff:
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    its not vellum, its mylar

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    US get all the nicest materials : / Any UK stores sell this stuff?

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    london is like art city lol,i'm sure theres plently of places u can get stuff,you just gotta know where to look,theres an art store called atalantis in london.

    Dunno where else in the u.k.

    oh and thanks for the info guys.

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    London is a 4 hours ride away :o Best bet is online stores for where I live. Theres one shop in my home town called Ashley Jacksons, I bought some layout paper from there which sounds similar to vellum but it seems too thin for oils.

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    If I ever need any art materials, I pop down to my local 'The Range' or 'Hobbycraft' store. Not totally sure they will have any Dernil/ Mylar pads, but its worth a try. The Range cover a lot of different areas, from Garden furniture to pet care, but they also have alot of arts supplies.

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    I recomend using some kind of rigid cheap material (cardboard, plywood, etc.) and coating it with gesso. Probably the most economical way to practice, you can trash pick the surfaces pretty easily. If you want to use something not quite so disposable, gesso on watercolor paper is a great surface. Easy to prepare, portable, not too pricey (depending on the paper you use). Pretty much any heavy paper will work, just be sure to gesso it first. I've never painted on mylar, I don't think I'd like the texture. Different materials will have significantly different influence in your technique

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    I've been to the range, its a pretty decent and 50% off store. I bought 10 200ml Winton Oil painting chubes for £5 each! They also sell a nice sketchbook by winsor there that I am using for college. One problem about this store, its a car trip (not a bus) and I dont drive so its a problem and I can only get lifts sometimes.

    I found some of that Vellum, its quite thick material and its translucent too like you said.I might buy some tomorrow. Mylar I cannot find and never really heard of it before.

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