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May 4th, 2006 #61Registered User
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crazy! your insane! i love your work! wow
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Incredbile!!! just amazing
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May 4th, 2006 #64
My, my! This is Incredible.
The way you work with light, shadow color is insane!
I truly feel I can step right in to that studio!
I have no words that can describe how beautiful this is. So I guess i'll leave it, that I am truly in Awe.
May 4th, 2006 #65
i will be sure to make it there..
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May 4th, 2006 #67
I dont know what to say Flint, nowadays art can be anything..i do admire some of the work you guys do, Collins is extraordinary no doubt but i think he can push himeself much much more.... if we.. just would learn from the past, really appreciated and not throw it away..like it never existed... you see all the professions in the world have advanced and we as painters have gone down..it think is mainly because our individuallity gets in the way..in the past there was one language and a few variations but it was so high up...artist helping and competing so fiercely, so much work and passion (not like we are not trying today..but it was three times as harder just like the science of music with his own language..which all artist had to learn..there were high standards and competitions..so much respect from the 3 old masters (raphael,michaelangelo,leonardo), sadly it is the truth..and well ..if you have seen their work..well i bet you have...you would agree with me...Studying . and accepting the great does not make you a lesser artist..it pushes you more..My question is what would you invent another language of art if it already has been written..wouldn't it be better to learn it well and then ..improve on it..but that means at least equalling the past to then surpassing if is possible...but anyways...I do look back,so i can see today and then tomorrow..take care and well good luck..
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May 4th, 2006 #68
You are a total legend.....
What do you do when life gives you lemons? You clone those lemons.... and make Super-Lemons...
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beautiful work, and props on obviously studying your ass off... 28! yikes!!
i do have an observation though... youre still lifes are gorgeous, near flawless, but theres something strange about your portraits... its almost as if theyre being treated the same as the still lifes... theres something plastic about them, as if they were dolls instead of people... perhaps it is because you make the color transitions in the skin so perfectly smooth? i cant figure it out, so i guess i cant make an informed crit, but something about them feels..... unreal.....unalive?
not to debase your work in the slightest, youre obviously very much in the know and have even more heights to reach as the years unfold....
could you tell us more about your process?
May 4th, 2006 #70
wow I think I just shit myself... that's absolutely incredible.. so real but with an extra quality to them that just makes them so much more..
I don't know what to say..
damn amazing stuff
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Those really are amazing. It's obvious you've dedicated a huge amount of time and effort to your craft, and it shows as you're paintings are on the same level as, if not higher, than the 50+ year olds on that gallery's site.
I'll also agree with the allejo on the quality of modern paintings and will readily admit that I have recently made a conscious move towards learning traditional techniques before I decide how my own style should look (of course I can only dream of painting with that mastery). Kudos for painting how you want to paint to the best of your ability (with amazing results).
Again, just a bang up brilliant job.
May 5th, 2006 #72
Originally Posted by Vhan juju
May 5th, 2006 #73
I think my brain just...pld:
May 5th, 2006 #74
Every witty comment I could make would just cover up that I'm entirely speechless being confronted with your work.
May 20th, 2006 #75Originally Posted by the_allejo05
funny, i was actually thinking the same thing.
do me a favor dude, go pick up the book "goad" and look at what phil hale has done. fucking amazing. way more interesting than your work.
no offence intended mind you, you've got a lot of great stuff here. but with this level of realistic detail i ask, "why not just take a photo?"
seems like a lot of wasted effort to me. theres just nothing unique about these paintings.
again, it is amazing work....but its boring.
here's a challenge for your next painting: paint your fencing jacket and equipment again, but do it in motion. have 2 guys fencing, but no people inside the outfits.
or if you want to do a still life, do it of something interesting(although i do give props to the fact that you ddin't do a still life of a skull with a glass of wine).
whats gonna make your painting unique?
for example: i can look at 5000 photos of various photographers and i can pick out a photo by Joel Peter Witkin every time.
think about it.
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you must be the best photorealist drawer ever 0_O dont understand how people do that.. 0___O *amazed*
May 20th, 2006 #77
amazing!!! really, really amazing!!
but i do agree with Layil about your portraits
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I thought these were photos when I first saw them! I wish I could see these for real. Thanks for sharing the progress shots.
May 20th, 2006 #80
I am baffled by the high level of skills you got. Really amazing.
What I do wonder is what direction you will go with your art. You have mastered realism.
May 20th, 2006 #81
fuck man- these are amazing- youre a freak haha
do you have any original concepts? id love to see those too!
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May 20th, 2006 #82Originally Posted by complete2
complete2: What you are speaking of is called "taste". I viewed your works and know the artists you speak of and your taste is simply more rock and roll and juvenile.
You should not judge art solely on taste. You should have an open mind. After all, it would be like a musician saying baroque or classical music is unworthy and only green day and the white stripes are any good.
phil hale does not have the same skills as doug, and doug does not have the same skills as phil hale. joel peter witkin does not have the same abilities as sally mann...and around and around it goes....each artist has an important path. each of those artists are important. each one is different.
many can see the difference between dougs still life and fine art and other traditional painters. His color use, his paint surface, and his way of handling light is unique to his work. if you have to see something as glaringly obvious as a joel peter witkin in a stack of photos to know if it is by a certain artist, then perhaps you should look closer. "that is like looking at a hunk of obsidian in a box of different kinds of diamonds"...study the stones man!
I do believe that as you grow in your work and as your mind opens up that you will find taste for fine paintings such as these. Any person pushing their oil painting and art skills can appreciate such things, I would think. The path to understanding what one sees is life long and worthy of any artist. Some artists choose that path, others choose different ones. All paths are worth looking at closely if one is to understand and learn. You should try it sometime. If you do, your work will improve
Now, back to the point at hand. Doug you have some gorgeous images here. The shell painting gives me the tingles. Thank you very much for sharing these. The process work makes it look so easy...but i know better. I tried for many years just to have one image like those which you create. i know how challenging it is to do such things. I know how much dedication it takes. You, unlike me, have found great success with that path which I hold such deep respect for. Thanks for posting.
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May 20th, 2006 #83
I gotta put in some defence here. Alejo-, are you so sure you know what art is? Be careful. Think a moment why "the 3 masters" have made the history dialogue the way it is. Mostly politics. Not skill. Mike made his career screwing over popes, not finishing a damn thing and running off w the dough. Bernini surpasses him in ability overall and doesnt have the same noteriety. I dont know the history but it probably doesnt have to do with Mike's "superiority".
Flynt's only 28 yrs old. This is fantastic. How old are you? Hows your 'technical' skill measure up? Yes this is a concept site dedicated to ideas and dreamers. This art is clearly technique. It shouldnt (IMO) be compared with the art that comes from deep within the imagination.
Complete-,take a photo? You do what Flynt is doing. This is a STILL LIFE. Hence NO MOVEMENT. Dont ask an orange to be an apple duder.
I understand what you guys are suggesting. And Im curious too as to what someone with this amount of skill could do with something more imaginative. But Flynt has obviously put in a lot of hard work. This is what he enjoys. Dont bash him for being niche oriented. Especially if you cant match him. Besides, theres no telling where Flint will go artistically/professionally, and without a doubt it will be commendable.
Dont know where this all came from. Dont even know Flynt. Sorry for the offence.
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May 20th, 2006 #84
Wow these paintings that you posted, I can't believe I didnt see this thread sooner! These are truely inspirational to me as I myself am working to finish off a Fine Arts degree.
In my University, the idea of realism is a dirty thought. The words "Illustrative" and "pointless" come up all the time so I am no stranger to the ongoing debate between artists on this very issue. I deeply respect your strength and courage and your amazing technical as well as artistic ability. I am humbled and encouraged by your work. I am a fan of realism and in my school every attempt I make is shot down, this work of yours gives me courage to keep trying and to do what I enjoy and make what I want to make.
I thank you with deepest sincerity for showing us these paintings and I only wish that I could be able to see them in real life. Thank you
P.S. On average, how long does it take you to complete a painting? I know it varies greatly depending on size and detail, but is there a rough timeframe for how long it takes you?
May 20th, 2006 #85
Thanks for showing some process
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May 20th, 2006 #86
This is the beauty of life as seen via the artist the feeling of life dimension emotion and texture goes beyond any digital/film photo (those of course have there place) Flynt your ability to transcend the dimension of banality with your art is astounding, thanks for sharing your gifts.
May 20th, 2006 #87
could you please explain this part in a little more detail?
Underdrawing sprayfixed with light wipeout
You're paintings are truly amazing!
May 21st, 2006 #88
first let me apologize to Complete...didnt mean to delete your post...its late..was trying to edit my own....i did manage to copy paste it though as part of my quote. so here it is...
Originally Posted by complete2
I might suggest you try to do what he is doing so you can better understand the path he is on..and also improve your own works...that quest which traditional artists share to overcome their own misunderstandings for how they may view the world in order to relate truth into their paintings...is perhaps one of the most difficult things an artist can try to do.
it is a question of taste, whether you care to admit it or not...what you consider phil hale doing as "the next level" is more in the range of illustration than traditional fine art. that is like saying led zeppelin is better than beethoven...its two different worlds...apples and oranges...both beautiful..both valid...both deliscious to the senses. neither are a success because of what you personally think.
I do believe that as you mature in your own work that your mind will open. right now you have a particular taste and viewpoint. years from now, that will change. what was once upside down will become right side up and sideways. Such is the beauty of following the art path.
If your own work showed that you had even a minute understanding of the path Doug is on then you would find ears who would listen. Right now your words and art come across as one who only listens to one genre of music and attempts to invalidate others. As an artist, you could focus on having an open mind to all perspectives instead of just focusing on one that is upside down.
Traditional Fine Artists do not historically mature until they reach their fifties or sixties. Considering Doug has found such inspiring success this early....I can only hope that I am around to see what he does when his artistic facility reaches full bloom.
May 21st, 2006 #89Originally Posted by BlackMath
are you fixing the drawing and then doing an oil wash over the top prior to lift out? looks like burnt umber and ivory black over the top for atmosphere and increased value depth...then wipe out to get the full range of values which you seek.
since it is hard to tell on the monitor, I would enjoy hearing some details about your process. I would appreciate it.
May 21st, 2006 #90
I was fortunate enough to see your paintings at Pence. beautiful work. the fencing outfit really stood out to me as one of my favorites there. Im glad to see you posting on this forum. and thanks for the under-painting pics