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    Smile what determines a "finished" work?

    i'm quite new around here and i've been checking out the Finally Finished section and i just want to know how the moderators determine a "finished" piece.

    i've posted something on the finished section but it was moved to the WIP section of the forum. i agree that there are some tweaks and modifications i can do to make my entry better, however, there are a few other pieces that i would consider a tad more incomplete and are still left in the Finished Section.

    just a curious question that i would like clarified. thanks guys!

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    Q: when is a piece considered "finished"?
    A: when all the mistakes are gone.

    Q: when should you post a piece in the "finally finished" section?
    A: when you fixed enough mistakes to make it look professional.

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    I was gonna write something.. but DS just summed it all up.

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    DS - but sometimes people aren't always aware of all the mistakes they've made and therefore feel a pic is finished. I've seen this happen quite a bit on the finally finished section as well.

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    you'll know when you've really finished one.

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    thanks for the responses.

    thing is, if you take a look at the finished section, there are lots of posts that are still sketchy and clearly still need some work done. but, they're still up there.

    maybe "finished" is also dependent on the reputation an artist has? perhaps a professional has more leeway to post a considerably incomplete work in the finished section?

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    'Finished' is a subjective term in any case, and no picture is going to be totally flawless.

    I've had issues with this, because I posted one piece in the 'critique' section (just to be safe) and didn't get any comments because it was a finished piece. I posted a different piece in 'finally finished' and it was moved to the WIP area.

    And none of the answers in this thread are really clearing the problem up for me. :/

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    Examples please.


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    I looked up your posts, both the ones you refer to received several comments so I'm a little confused.
    Here's link to the one you originally put in Finally Finished.
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65183

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrikit
    thanks for the responses.

    thing is, if you take a look at the finished section, there are lots of posts that are still sketchy and clearly still need some work done. but, they're still up there.

    maybe "finished" is also dependent on the reputation an artist has? perhaps a professional has more leeway to post a considerably incomplete work in the finished section?
    "incomplete" is a matter of opinion.
    it depends on what the artists intentions were.
    it does not matter how developed the image is, so long as what is developed is good.
    this image IS "finally finished": (despite the lack of an arm and its "sketchy" quality)
    what determines a "finished" work?

    where as, something FAR more detailed, but incomplete is a "work in progress":
    what determines a "finished" work?

    and finally, something completed, though not of professional quality, would belong in the "critique center".
    what determines a "finished" work?

    if your quib is "why is my stuff considered amateur, and not pro quality?", that is at the discretion of the moderator.
    but you should be able to look at your piece, and be able to tell if it is at a professional level.

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    Man, Dan. That last piece is definitely your best work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by magicgoo
    Man, Dan. That last piece is definitely your best work.
    thanks!
    its a new direction for me.
    im glad you can appreciate it. i really put a lot of emotion into it.

    you see, in the first image, im made of pixels! (this represents how we are all really just outward copies of an internal being)
    in the second, im made of a rainbow (because i have lots of blacks and latinos in my family. but we are all really one color inside)
    in the third, i am falling apart (this is because im mad at society because society is always stopping me from being who i really am)
    in the last one, i have yellow lips (cause my words are gold, but people just dont hear them)
    except you.
    you understand me... dont you magicgoo?

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    dan just blew my mind

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    like i said, i understand that my piece was moved because there was still room for improvement. as far as my future entries, i'll be posting my progress in the WIP section and eventually move to the finished section. this is clear to me.

    DSillustration: i understand your explanation about how the piece is developed. thanks!

    HOWEVER, what i don't understand is how there are entries in the finished section that are blatantly labelled as WIP and are meant by the artist to be WIP and definitely look like WIP. (i don't want to specify which ones i'm referring to but if you take 5 minutes to browse, you should see what i mean)...so, why are they still there? that's where my curiosity lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSillustration
    thanks!
    its a new direction for me.
    im glad you can appreciate it. i really put a lot of emotion into it.

    you see, in the first image, im made of pixels! (this represents how we are all really just outward copies of an internal being)
    in the second, im made of a rainbow (because i have lots of blacks and latinos in my family. but we are all really one color inside)
    in the third, i am falling apart (this is because im mad at society because society is always stopping me from being who i really am)
    in the last one, i have yellow lips (cause my words are gold, but people just dont hear them)
    except you.
    you understand me... dont you magicgoo?
    oohhhhh that's priceless... satire is what makes my world go 'round.

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    Dan, I'm glad to see you learned something in your foundation classes!


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    intrikit: "WIP forum" in this case also refers to the artist. If the moderators feel that your level as an artist is still in the amateur, beginning stages, they will move it from the FF section to the WIP. The mods have said before that they try to keep the FF section to a level of professional quality.

    I realize that the forums don't specifically state that, so I can understand your confusion.

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    sounds good. thanks guys!

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    Great textures Dan! I like the thin white line around the outlines, especialy in the last one. More PLZ!

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