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    Kanye West Drawing (Time Lapse)

    I searched on here to see if it was discussed. But, I didn't find it, so here it is. The only question i have is what materials is he using? To me it looks like mixed media, charcoal and pencil? Also, I can't tell because of the grainy video but did he do a line drawing first? Because by the way he's going about the shading, it doesnt like someone who would do it one pass it looks like he already has a line drawing set.

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    He did do a line drawing first. You can see the fingers of the line drawing near the start, if he has the fingers drawn in I'd assume he drew the lines for everything lightly to begin with, just the video is too grainy for them to show up.

    And yes, the way he's doing the shading also shows that he has a line drawing in place.

    Looks like mixed media to me too, I would guess the same as you, charcoal and graphite, although I notice a pen is always close at hand on his desk. It's possible he's using ink for the darkest values, but I'm really not sure.

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    Wow.

    He copied a picture in the most easily controlled medium.

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    I feel the same way you guys do. I mean maybe as practice, this was ok, but seriously what's the point in filming yourself?

    Thing is. I really shouldn't say anything, I'm not even to that point yet of being able to render well.

    I dont know, am I the only one that finds it a waist of time to copy a photograph exactly as it is? Because if I am I'll gladly shut my yap rightnow... maybe

    Actually this might be a good place to start bringing up the whole discussion on whther copying a photograph is good or not i dunno... Nah, probably not to many of those.

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    Why dont you guys check the Art lout oud thread? Nothing wrong with using a photograph as reff, even if it is to do a portrait. The guy didnt copy it, if he did hed put it in a xeroxmachine.
    Its still his enterpretation, and hes pretty damn good at shading too. Its almost as if because hes not a part of CA community you "diss" him (hehe)
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    OK I'm wrong. Good point Tim. I gotta keep an open mind about these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timpaatkins
    Why dont you guys check the Art lout oud thread? Nothing wrong with using a photograph as reff, even if it is to do a portrait. The guy didnt copy it, if he did hed put it in a xeroxmachine.
    Its still his enterpretation, and hes pretty damn good at shading too. Its almost as if because hes not a part of CA community you "diss" him (hehe)
    Humans can be xerox machines, too. It's all good for practice, but it wouldn't be a very valid portfolio piece... he didn't shoot the reference himself, and he's trying his hardest to copy the photo as much as possible. No change in composition, no concept behind it...just a drawing of a photo. People who use ref succesfully are using it as something to guide their thought process without becoming too reliant on it to make their own decisions and changes.

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    Depends on what hes trying to do, doesnt it?
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    Yeah, if he's trying to xerox it, he succeeded ... but like cotron implied, that's boring as hell, all it is an example of "technical" skill ... makes me wonder if that guy would be any good if you told him to draw a fully rendered piece straight out of his head.

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    I've never been impressed by people that draw directly from photo reference.....it that wrong?
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    You guys make me laugh...
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    I'm with everyone else here. THe only reason I think he would film himself are
    A:Egotistical
    B;Someone didn't think he was drawing his drawings so he drew a drawing on film to show them.
    C:A "Process" to show how he works.

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    Yeah, its too bad Fred Flickstones tutorials are down, otherwise you could have posted how unimpressed you are that he copied (and showed how to) a couple of photographs.
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    There's nothing wrong with using reference, by any means, I use it all the time, and so do the majority of professionals...it's a big help, and is often necessary. That's not the issue I was talking about. There's a difference between using a photo to get what you want out of it and mindlessly copying the thing.
    It's a good exercise to copy photos, but only to a point. Especially if it's not even your own photo you're using like that. If that guy was trying to show that drawing in his portfolio or if it got published, then the person who owns the copyright to that photo would have a problem with it. Taking your own photos and utilizing them like a tool to help you achieve what you intended from the start is the point of reference- but taking an image that isn't yours and not altering it in any meaningful way isn't making good art, it's making the same shit you see guys at stands on the street or in malls selling. There is a redundancy to copying a photo as closely as possible, as a camera will always do it better and faster. What makes a drawing/painting art is the thought process that goes into it to make it original and something that no machine can make.

    ps tim- fredflickstone was using the ref the way it's intended... taking his knowledge of anatomy/color/light and using the photo as a guide to make something that's obviously more than just a copied photo. ol' kanye is another story, though.

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