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    PC or Mac

    im planning on buying a new computer for my artworks, iv allways used my dads comp when painting digital paintings, but now im finaly buying one for myself, but i cant deside if im gonna choose a mac or pc, so i ask u pro's, what does photoshop work best on, pc or mac?
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    Photoshop works fine on either. The question is which do you work better on.

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    Art programs work on either, and the abilities of both are pretty much the same. Mainly it depends on how you like the operating system. PCs are cheaper, more customizeable, and in my opinion easier to fix. They also seem to run just a little faster. Macs are more expensive but have a sleeker design, and...well, they're Macs. Kind of a category all their own.
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    Mac's are faster but more expensive. Also you should know that there is a lot of illegal softwere for pc's but not very much for mac's so if you want to use illegal stuff..
    I am working at a PC but when I have the money I would go for a Mac
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    I prefer pc's because they give you more options with both the software and hardware. As far as I am aware you cannot upgrade macs but you can with pc's. Considering the higher costs of buying a mac I would go with a pc.

    Also Apple seem to make every file format unique to thier programs. Which makes life difficult when working with different people and programs.

    Macs seem alot of style over substance but that is just my thoughts.
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    yeah, but the thing is that my dad has a mac, cuz he sais thats for "proffesionals", so if i buy a mac i get photoshop free from my dad ( gonna copy it ), but if i buy a pc i have to buy photoshop itself, wich is expensive

    Thnx for the quick response guys, apreciate it
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    Then buy a Mac. I don't see any downside, and you won't be sorry.
    All professional programs you would be using are completely cross-platform in terms of file format.
    As for ugradability, low end Macs (iMacs & minis) aren't particularly ugradable (except for RAM, of course), but the towers certainly are.

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    Man, this could get ugly quick if the zealots of both parties get involved.

    I use a PC at work, and a Mac at home. I know them both inside and out. OSX is by far the more stable operating system. You get much more free software with the mac that can make up for the seemingly 'premium' price they command. They are, in general, better designed hardware than the 'typical' PC. They are undeniably 'cooler'.

    On the other hand, PCs ARE more upgradable (albeit that's somewhat overrated), cheaper to initially purchase, and they do run Photoshop and Painter as well as non-mac software (rarely the other way around). In certain respects, I prefer Windows XP, but only in certain, minor respects.

    Finally, your Dad's copy of Photoshop has likely been 'activated' and might not be able to be installed on your Mac. Also, I believe that's called stealing. Others slam me all you like, but it's piracy on a large scale, NOT comparable to giving someone a mix CD or sending an MP3. Think twice before you do it. My 2 cents.
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    It's all personal preference. As several people have stated, Photoshop is pretty much identical on both systems as far as functionality goes. It's up to you to decide which OS you work more quickly on and which system better fits your lifestyle. I personally prefer the Windows OS, but I know plenty of people who prefer Macs. It's all up to you, and the decision probably won't affect what you do too much.
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    Datameister is right. Its personnal preference really. But if you intend to do art professionally you should buy your own version of photoshop. My thinking is if you intend to make money from something then you should pay for it.

    You don't need to have the full version though. From a digital painting point of view photoshop elements has all you need. The only thing it dosn't have is channels and the path tool as far as I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thraktor
    I believe that's called stealing. Others slam me all you like, but it's piracy on a large scale, NOT comparable to giving someone a mix CD or sending an MP3. Think twice before you do it. My 2 cents.
    i think its redicoulus for a 14 year old like me to use so much money only for a hobby. Im not a professional artist that would make money on using this software. But yes, think it would be stealing, of MY money.
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    As a former software developer who knows all about piracy and the real costs it inflicts on the industry (tiny in reality, pirated copies != lost sales, you can't assume that every pirate would buy a copy of your program if they had to), I can say one thing... Use your dad's version of Photoshop at first, then buy your own license later if you decide to pursue this.

    1. Software activation is a Windows only thing. The Mac version doesn't require it (mine didn't). Honestly, the whole activation thing is a bad idea and I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe drops it altogether since it doesn't prevent piracy at all and it greatly inconveniences legitimate users.

    2. It sounds like you're still kind of starting out. You might not even know for sure yet if this whole "making pictures for a living" thing is really for you. Don't drop $500-600 on something that could end up collecting dust.

    I've changed careers once already, and before I chose the first career, I must've changed my mind about my life a dozen or more times. It happens.

    I'm going to be dead honest with people right now. I used Photoshop for a couple years before I bought my own copy. It's important to note that I did, in fact, buy my own copy (and I buy all of my graphics software nowadays), but I was not going to do that before I actually knew I was going to need it. If Photoshop only cost a hundred bucks (or heck, even a couple of hundred), I'd say buy it. But the price of this stuff is truly prohibitive for somebody just starting out, for somebody who is still exploring all of their possibilities and for somebody who doesn't have all of their equipment and supplies yet.

    You shouldn't have to go into debt just to start tinkering with the tools of the trade, and the developers of this software shouldn't demand that of you, it's unethical to expect every potential illustrator and designer to pony up thousands of dollars just to get started, but people seem to accept it as the way of the world anyway. If paintbrushes cost as much as Photoshop does, there'd be no Picasso, Monet or Van Gogh.

    I don't approve of software piracy in general, and I do wholeheartedly believe that once someone starts to take their work seriously, they need to invest in the tools of their trade. But when you're just starting out, get what you can however you can. Buy, borrow or copy. Once you've learned the skills of the trade and you feel comfortable making the decision to do this for the rest of your life, then you start buying things, and then you start feeling bad about the things you haven't bought yet.

    Software developers already understand this to a certain extent. Academic pricing is a conceit to this reality, but Adobe's academic prices are still way out of whack. They used to be lower, but then Adobe's marketing division realized they could make more money selling large scale licenses to universities than they could selling academic copies to students (and profit was never the point of selling academic copies, it was about building brand loyalty and ensuring that there was a community of professional users available to market to -- ie, they didn't all drop out of design school for lack of funds). Now that Adobe has conquered the graphics software market, brand loyalty is a moot point. In order to maximize the profit potential of university licenses, Adobe had to accomplish two goals.

    1. Encourage students to use university computers rather than their own, which in turn encourages universities to increase their facility spending.

    2. Make as much money off of each university licensed copy as possible.

    Raising the academic price of Photoshop from $100 (which is about what it was when I was in college the first time around) to $250 (which is about what it is now) accomplishes both of those goals.

    Adobe's hard working programmers aren't going to get laid off and their kids aren't going to starve if every new designer and student uses a pirated copy of Photoshop for a year or so before buying their own legal copy. They make most of their money on typefaces anyway.

    Honestly, I think piracy of Adobe software would plummet if they acknowledged this reality and gave us a legal means of using Photoshop for a while, like a temporary lease. Pay us a hundred bucks now and you can use a full version of the latest Photoshop release for a full year. Pay us the rest of the amount at the end of the year and we'll give you any updated vesions if they were released and remove the timer from your software. Don't pay us and your software deletes itself (or whatever).

    Sure the system could be hacked to give someone a hundred dollar version of Photoshop, but someone who does that would hack the full version anyway without paying anything at all. At least this would get some revenue from the tens of thousands of "honest" users who don't want to pirate Photoshop but feel they have to. Most software pirates aren't dishonest people. They're just people trying to get something done with limited resources. The industry's current attempts to demonize piracy just end up alienating them from a huge population of their existing user base, a group of people they should be trying to find ways to make money off of rather than trying to put them all in jail.

    If you can't change the world (and in this case, they can't), you should try to make the best of it, however it is. The first software company that figures this out and puts this philosophy into action is going to bury their competition.
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    Amen MEP.
    I am about to buy the entire academic adobe suite as soon as i raise the money. I honeslty own two desktops. One is a Mac and the other is a PC. I will be honest to you, my dual 2 gigahertz G5 whups my friends 3.06 Gigahertz Xenon Dual processors ass with graphic design stuff. He has the edge over me with gaming but i dont care about that. And i recently upgraded my videocard and put another 2 gigs of ram into the Mac. You can upgrade a mac it just costs more and youll need to do it less.

    If I were you I honestly would find the nearest Apple store and play around with one. If you like it you like it if you dont you dont.
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