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    DreiGrasheir Sketchbook

    I'm trying to improve my lineart, please rip apart constructively. My desire is to work in video games, so i'm going for realistic... but not entirely. I know i need to work on hands and feet... A few recent sketches;

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    "Boink", half of an angel/demon (Bink and Boink) duo my freind and I have been working on.

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    "Texas Punk"

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    "Primal" Fanart from PS2 game "Primal" this is Jen in Wraith form.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Pretty decent stuff youre going in the right direction. Work on making your faces less animesque. Your anatomy is really off in some parts also. You have a nice sense in clothing, especially in the sketch with the guy leaning on the wall it fits his attitude nicely.
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    yeah, the anime-ish faces are kinda my stepping stool into getting them more realistic. trying to get them to be more expressive before i get them to look more realistic. thanks for the comment!
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    Just a bit of advice (from someone who tried dat) try to focus on realism first before attempting the expressive. Expressiveness is based on the manipulation of what's realistic, so you can see how it would be beneficial to have a grasp of realism first. ; )

    Anyway, do with that what you will. Haven't seen ya around in awhile. ; )
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    hm.. in that case, i might have to reconsider my strategy. thanks.
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    actually the only real reason I draw faces like that is because i use a small sketychbook for most of my drawings. by the time i get to the face, its too small to do much of anything but anime-ish. I need a bigger sketchpad.

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    good to see you posting your own work here.

    your pencil lines are pretty even and of the same value all around each drawing. it makes them look flat. vary up the pencil lines. make it lighter and "quicker" in areas where you want to create a gradient. make them thick and dark to push it back into the shadows.

    keep up your hard work man. good stuff. take care.
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    I think that u must take it gradual. This is a mistake that i made at start, trying to go for the complex forms from the very beggining. Try to do some anatomy studies--this way u can learn anatomy as well as develop your skills on shapes and shades and shadows. When u are able to do those by eye, u can try to take it to the next level.
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    I agree with T-raktor on that. Take it as slowly as you need to. Trying to push yourself into the deep end before you can swim will only result in you drowning.
    I would suggest you to do head and human proportion studies, as those were the two things that i noticed first as being weak points. One more thing. If you are serious about learning to be an artist, one thing that may help you is to simply forget everything you have learned before and start back at square one, if you do that you will see right off the bat some of the mistakes you previously made a habit of making (its working for me so far, i think. If nothing else the blank page is no longer so intimidating and i dont have to spend an hour trying to figure out how long certain parts of the body should be, even if i do fuck up still).
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    wow, thanks for the comments everyone.

    ParkerD: Now you knwo why I don't try coloring my own stuff. not quite 'there' yet with my own lineart. You know, i've had so many people mention line speed to me, but I still havent tried it out. I guess I always thought of it as one of those things to learn after anatomy. Something to make it pretty *after* I've got the shape down. Is that a bad assumption?

    T-Raktor: So I think you're saying that I shouldn't worry about drawing characters as much as anatomically accurate poses? I'm aware that you have to know 'the norm' before you can expand on it, sounds like a good idea then.

    Sepulverture: Erase and start over, eh? I've been told to do that with a drawing or two before, but not my entire knowledge of drawing!! Now that I think of it, I only really learned how to draw from two people, neither very far above my skill level at the time. I've learned from the art of countless others, but only two have actually sat down with me and explained how to get the shape on the paper. I might have to try re-learning from a guru or two.

    Thanks again everyone. If anyone has an idea where to get started on either of these, it'd be appreciated.
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    don't worry that you got started in drawing from anime. i confess, I did too. Fist of the North Star (my fav. anime), and a great style too.

    i agree with some of the other comments here... i think it would be a good idea to start off with drawing random objects. just things on your desk. the tv, the couch, the lamp. you can practice creating beautiful pencil lines on those things. you can still do your character designs on the side, and the practice you've done on your still life's will carry onto to your characters. it will be a very gradual process. just fill up 1 page/day of various objects.

    if you want to practice drawing people more correctly, that is a little harder. i had to learn all that stuff on my own (i'm an art school drop-out). i started by collecting images & books of figure drawing manuals, the great masters (sargent, bouguereau, mucha) and gathering inspiration. a lot of the artists on CA continue to keep me inspiried. subscribe to their threads and ask them questions.

    practice copying those fashion models out of magazines and copying the figures in Michaelangelo's, Sistine Chapel paintings. it's great because those guys are always in these awkward poses with odd hand positions. that's where i first started.

    goodluck
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreiGrasheir
    actually the only real reason I draw faces like that is because i use a small sketychbook for most of my drawings. by the time i get to the face, its too small to do much of anything but anime-ish. I need a bigger sketchpad.
    This inspired me to add something else to my tagline (see below). No, I am not calling you a "small artist" but I hope you see I am trying to help...blaming your sketchpad is an excuse. Particularly when anime is known for having bigger eyes, it makes no sense that having less room would "force" you to draw them.

    Embrace what you need to work on, seek change, and change will happen.

    (I also want to admit that I started drawing anime first too...and I have been trying to get away from it ever since, especially since I don't really like much anime anymore. My mistake was that I created a "style box" for myself to work within, I never tried anything new, or expanded myself. I limited my own creativity, and the pursuit of my own voice, or style. This is what i want you to watch out for, that's all).

    Well, get out there and keep working hard.
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    If I was at your level I would study comic book art. They have a simplified style of anatomy which is a good start. I used to rigurously study Michael Turner when I was young, and I believe it paid off. If your gonna go for the more anime style, choose someone with heavy aesthetics like Joe Mad for ex.
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