IDW007: Airborne Tank, 20 person crew
Join the #1 Art Workshop - LevelUpJoin Premium Art Workshop

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 39

Thread: IDW007: Airborne Tank, 20 person crew

  1. #1
    davi's Avatar
    davi is offline Administrator & Community Manager. Level 17 Gladiator: Spartacus' Dimachaeri
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    10,007,461
    Thanks
    332
    Thanked 1,194 Times in 254 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    IDW007: Airborne Tank, 20 person crew



    Topic: Airborne Tank, 20 person crew

    Description: In 1988, The USSR commissioned their top Russian engineers to create two tanks that could take out a capital city's of france and poland. The tank was a behemoth of metal and firepower. The tank would be flown over a city and dropped within city limits-- The lone tank would have no back up and the sole mission of destroying all major political structures.

    These tanks were never put into practice due to the fall of the USSR, but remain under control of Mother Russia to this day.


    Your Job: Develop a tank that is possible to hold over 20 crewmen. The tank must be able to withstand a fall of at least 3km(1.9miles). The tank must have enough firepower to cause mass destruction.

    Deadline: March 25th Midnightish

     

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    126
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Yay, I got to an activity before the polls started! Maybe I can submit something now...

    All I can say is, I pity the poor people inside. I think my tank is going to be made out of...unobtainium. Off to the drawing board!

    ohjay's sketchbook

    So here we are but no cigar
    idiots and electric guitars
    You're hiding, keep riding
    from acid to zen and back again
     

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    germany
    Posts
    187
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Does "tank" imply caterpillars?

    Edit: I think tracks is the word for what i meant.

    Last edited by Friso; March 18th, 2006 at 12:21 PM.
     

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    318
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Sorry I read the wrong date

    Damm I can't think of anny thing nice..

    Last edited by Kei-th; March 18th, 2006 at 11:37 AM.
     

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    57
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    can it be a hovering tank?

     

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Omaha Nebraska
    Posts
    702
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 47 Times in 19 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by ambidextros
    can it be a hovering tank?
    i assume it can if you can convince the viewer that the technology was in place back than to do it :/

     

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    188
    Thanks
    46
    Thanked 33 Times in 23 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    Excellent tank resource

    Found this while searching tank stuff... a really great resource:

    http://212.84.179.117/afv.htm

     

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Santa Rosa/San Anselmo, Calif.
    Posts
    3,392
    Thanks
    135
    Thanked 424 Times in 160 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    so this tank doesnt fly? it just drops? what would be large enough to carry a 20-person crew tank 2 miles above ground?

    also, is the briefing fictional? it seems like there's a lot of things that dont make a whole lot of sense functionally once you really start to think about it... a tank that large, with no back-up would need extremely heavy back-up, loads of weaponry and ammunition, yet be light enough to be carried AND have some sort of way to not completely fall apart from a mile-high drop.. not to mention this is set in 1988, so the technology has to be already existent... eesh thats one hell of an assignment

    Last edited by Main Loop; March 19th, 2006 at 03:46 AM.
     

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Computer Chair, Deskville
    Posts
    652
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Ok, I think some people are confused. The tank itself doesnt fly or hover. It is dropped from an aircraft. Therefore it has to have a few things. The first is some kind of cushioning system to reduce the impact of it hitting the earth from hundreds of feet up. The second is really dense and impregnable armor, this thing is a lone fighter and it has no support, plus its expensive to produce so it cant be lost. The third is some kind of really powerful weaponry. The tank can hold 20 crewmen so its obviously large enough to hold multiple missle batteries, tank turrets, mounted gatling guns, etc. Also it has to be able to topple major structures. So I would concentrate on any weaponry good for razing buildings. Keep in mind that normal tank treads wont do for this thing, if its as large as it would have to be then it will need massive supporting treads. In addition it will need a huge engine, tons and tons of unstoppable tank doesnt just move itself. Thats about all I would make sure to worry about,.

     

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Santa Rosa/San Anselmo, Calif.
    Posts
    3,392
    Thanks
    135
    Thanked 424 Times in 160 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    well im trying to think of it as something that can hold up to scrutiny in the real world.. there's a lot you have to think about, maybe too much for it to be able to pull off realistically.. i'd really like to give it a go, but thats a hell of a lot to cover

     

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    318
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I found a huge sorce of reference!

    http://www.tanxheaven.com/referencepictures.htm

    I know they are old but I think they could help!

     

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Omaha Nebraska
    Posts
    702
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 47 Times in 19 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    here are communist russia era tanks. broken up into catagories to at least aid with visual style

    http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?...mid=50&lang=en

     

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    CO
    Posts
    147
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Assuming that the soviets actually did ask for something like this from their engineers at one time (I doubt it was ever built since 1988 was very very close to the end for the USSR), are you sure that the 20 people were crewmembers or was this a tank/apc and some of those people were demolitions/occupation personnel? I can't imagine needing 20 crewmembers for any non-naval military vehicle built after the 60s, no matter how many weapons and systems it has onboard.

    -------------------------
    In the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"
     

  14. #14
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    808
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked 42 Times in 25 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0


    M1A1 Abrams main battle tank. B.A

    (j/k, this isn't a real entry)

     

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Omaha Nebraska
    Posts
    702
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 47 Times in 19 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    this experimental tank had a crew of 12 and exhisted... so this isn't that far off guys... just work with it

    http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?...mid=50&lang=en

     

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Massachusetts, USA
    Posts
    399
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Crazy Gliding Tanks

    Gotta love the Russians, they actually tried this before. Granted it only worked sometimes but still, flying tanks!

    As far as drop mechanisms go, actual large vehicles tend to be pushed out of an aircraft flying very low above the ground. They then skid to a stop with the aid of parachutes. This eases the stress on the vehicle (usually people aren't in it at the time though). Then it can be picked up and used. I'm not sure how well this would work with a city-destroying tank though, but it might be better than parachutes.

    FASTIDIOUS SKETCHFIENDS of the FANTASTIC FOURTEENTH ESCHELON
    staylor| inkfish | rodrigo! | ah.heng | maxetormer | bRØk3n_sPiRiT | Max1975 | ZebzFree

    TURBOFANATIC
     

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    136
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    If you follow the BMD air drop thread and search google you'll find a ton of reference, and a lot of comment on why we don't have air drop tanks (seems we're stupid)

    this pic shows a russian bmd under single canopy with retro rockets firing to cushion landing


     

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Sweden, Lund
    Posts
    329
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Man this topic is so awsome I might just have to try it myself Oh the mass destruction, the carnage

    Command & Conquer anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by MEP
    I can't imagine needing 20 crewmembers
    Heh, russian thinking; 1 person to drive it, 19 to make sure he does his jobb (apologies to any russians)

    My Sketchbook
    "Don’t waste your time on jealousy; sometimes you’re ahead, sometimes you’re behind, the race is long, and in the end, it’s only against yourself."
    Photoshop color picker | Adjusting tablet sensitivity: Manually or Utility
     

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Barcelona
    Posts
    68
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    ciutadelle

    Well that´s my contri , I think in a multi -gun, my airborne tank is a two towers a mobile ans static, termonuclear missils, and lot of guns, is for destroy all.


     

  20. #20
    davi's Avatar
    davi is offline Administrator & Community Manager. Level 17 Gladiator: Spartacus' Dimachaeri
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    10,007,461
    Thanks
    332
    Thanked 1,194 Times in 254 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
     

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Omaha Nebraska
    Posts
    702
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 47 Times in 19 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    i don't quite understand the 'cone' and how it helps deal with the forces involved, but the rendering is great!

     

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    136
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    cesaraguilar/davi - great start to the thread

    i've got some wips for this in my sketchbook - will post them here if i dont get a chance to render them up

     

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Computer Chair, Deskville
    Posts
    652
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Legato, I think I know how this works. Davi will correct me if Im wrong. Ok now if he had something that was flat to break the tanks fall the force of hitting the ground would distribute evenly across the surface but it wouldnt cushion the landing at all, it would just travel up through the tank and probably ruin less substantial components. However Davi put a cone shaped landing system on his tank. This way it will split the earth once it hits. Now since its a conical shape then it will take more and more force to push the progressively larger in diameter cone further into the ground. But of course there is only the original force of the impact so the tank uses the cone to grind itself to a halt slowly. Its fairly simple and ingenious really. Take anything that tapers to a point with a wide base and try to push it into the ground. Initially it will enter the soil smoothly but it gets harder and harder to push it in as you move toward the base. Same basic principle. Good idea Davi.

     

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Santa Rosa/San Anselmo, Calif.
    Posts
    3,392
    Thanks
    135
    Thanked 424 Times in 160 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    ...so once it's stuck in the ground like that, how does it move?

     

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Computer Chair, Deskville
    Posts
    652
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Main Loop, no the cone is detachable. The tank detaches from the cone after its done landing and then drives right off it. On the main picture of the tank there are large holes in the housing of the treads, then in the pic of the tank attached to its cone you can see what look like clasps attaching the tank to the cone. The holes are where the clasps insert into Im assuming, then they unhook on arrival.

     

  26. #26
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    at a coffee shop near you
    Posts
    51
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Already some cool looking tanks appearing! Not sure if I'll have the time to give it a shot this week since I'm midway through the CHOW and COW, but I'm definitely going to be watching this to see what everyone comes up with.

     

  27. #27
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Santa Rosa/San Anselmo, Calif.
    Posts
    3,392
    Thanks
    135
    Thanked 424 Times in 160 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    ahh ok.. i dont know if im the only one who that was unclear for.. its really hard to tell what's going on with that little thumbnail.. maybe some sort of markings/decals to tell each segment apart?

     

  28. #28
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Posts
    43
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Let’s see.... Lone, city obliterating tank with a twenty man crew that can survive a huge fall built with late eighties tech... An M1 Abrams(designed in 1980) has a four man crew(captain,driver,gunner,loader) and has an operational time of maybe a few days. The 500 gallon-ish fuel tanks let the Abrams travel nearly 300 miles without refueling. It’s ammunition magazines hold a hundred something rounds.

    A twenty man crew would prolly be something like this:
    -Captain
    -driver
    -co pilot
    -navigator/map guy
    -7gunners
    -7loaders
    -2 mechanics

    The form is taking shape! Seven large guns, at least ten or so smaller guns, LOTS of AA guns/missiles, all kinds of radar domes and scopes, HUMUNGOUS FUEL TANKS and engine, and places for the crew to sleep. But since you want to keep complete operational strengh at all times, you’ll need more gunners and loaders.

    For landing, how about a few spaceship-class rockets and parachutes?

    Since this thing has to able to cause huge amounts of damage, it'll be larger than a regular tank by orders of magnitudes.

     

  29. #29
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    136
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I'm not going to be able to finish this or render this up - my wife is taking me to new york for my birthday tommorrow, so gonna be a fair old distance from my drawing board!!

    main idea, tank in flying wing shaped lifting body style vehicle (kinda x-33 next gen shuttle thingee) thats is carried by massive kick ass jet/assualt gunship. landing vehicle acts as missle launcher to assist tank when targeting + blowing the shit out of stuff. hope you like


     

  30. #30
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    15
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    hmm, for all that power, you need some hell of a powerplant. prehaps an atomic reactor? if they could fit one to a plane back in the 70s surely a giant tank could take one?

     

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •