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    I hve reachde Utlimate Prefetcion!!!one!

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    Hello, my name is Christian Ibarra, im 23, i live
    in Argentina, im a graphic design student here
    on its last year, i work as a freelancer Designer,
    im not an artist but im beginning to retake that
    career since its so important in todays laboral
    world, im mean retaking since i had lost that
    lets say "will" to draw ever since i started
    to study other things like programming and
    other things, anyway i have made a lot of
    progress thanks to those Loomis books i found
    on the internet and that now appear to be gone.

    Anyways, i have seen many of the art made here
    and im really exited to have finally made this post,
    im anxious waiting for your advice.
    I have seen you have many good tips and tutorials,
    ill try to work on those on the following days, and i
    have identified some problems of mine,
    i have a very insecure line drawing for example,
    and i have almost no knowledge on anatomy, wich
    i have started studying today watching some pictures
    in my dictionary and internet.

    Ok, enough words, see some of my sketches and
    dont tell me i suck, i know i do, i just want a bit
    of your wisdom...

    my latest work, i was going to make the rest of
    the body, but i realized i didnt know what i was
    doing, so i stopped there...
    I hve reachde Utlimate Prefetcion!!!one!

    This is the black knight of hatred...
    I hve reachde Utlimate Prefetcion!!!one!

    This is the blue robot of hatred...
    I hve reachde Utlimate Prefetcion!!!one!

    This is a nice little dino...
    I hve reachde Utlimate Prefetcion!!!one!

    This is something i made before reading Loomis books...
    (Notice the HUGE improvement )
    I hve reachde Utlimate Prefetcion!!!one!

    I have some drawing in my sketchbook wich ill
    try to scan when i have time...

    Thanks a lot in advance, and have patience with an
    ignorant like me...

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    Wawaweewa!1!1 Its been a year since i opened this thread and i have improved so much!, and now i wanted to revive it, im going to do a sketch everyday and i hope you help me improve, ill try to help you too of course.

    So, i had this great idea of besides doing a sketch ill do a little joke, just for fun, its not that i feel im funny, just for the heck of it

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    Hi, i did this little challenge for me, to cut a piece of paper and make 4 planes in a stripe with it, for the purpose of understanding planes more, perspective and angles and also to practice a little shading, i think it turned out to be a very good excersize since it was very hard in the begining but it became easier in the last ones and also turned out better and faster, try it
    Critiques and advice very appreciated, thank youuu.

    I made it in like more than 4 hours, since it was so hard for me and i had to take breaks because at times my tension and frustration levels where very high

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    Welcome to C.A. good for you for starting a sketchbook. Post the loomis studies if you can as these could be very helpful for people to well help you out. Just keep studying anatomy, and portraits. Maybe do as many still lifes as you can.

    Also in your last post you said you got very frustrated with drawing. Try not to worry to much about what your drawing. Just have fun with it. play with the design, dont worry if it doesn't turn out perfect right from the start if you keep practicing you'll get it.

    good job so far, keep on going

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    Thanks wake, ill do what you say, specially on not worryng too much

    Heres the practice of today, yesterday was too busy
    I think this is really helping me, im better at getting the angles now, but i must practice with values more, critiques and advices are greately appreciated thanks.

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    bummer 'bout yesturday but I'm sure you had a reason.

    The studies of plains are looking good. I've never seen an excersize like that but it seems to be helpful. Try to change up your excersizes everyday though so your not doing the same thing consecutively. Maybe come up with a different way of learning the same thing just so you dont get in the habbit of doing the same thing every time.

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    Thanks for the idea, i think its a good one too because i was getting tired of doing that same boring piece of paper again and again , so i changed the excersize, this time to train with values and sphere volume. A little bit dis-ordered, but the last one i did is in the right lower corner. Crits comments help advice greatly appreciated as allways, thank you.

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    Thanks for stopping by my Sketch Book and giving me some useful advice!

    I like your dino design! Maybe once you have studied more from the loomis books, you should go back and re design the dino, with your new found pencil rendering skills!

    That would look sweet!

    Keep it up man!

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    Hey dude,thanks for stopping by my sb,appreciate the input.Those sphere studies are great,but they're all the same shape and lit from the same angle.Try cubes,cones,and cylinders ,lit from above,below,the side,tilt 'em,rotate 'em(sorry to ramble there).My point is: variety is what these studies lack.Just keep 'em coming,more!

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    Hey, lovin the characters. You need some work on anatomy and figure study. But youve got some interesting concepts. Would love to see more of your pencil stuff.

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    those lighting studies look good

    for ur perspectives.. do some simple geometry studies i improved alot due drawing cubes ( old samples : http://www.fragtasia.de/bob/2dstuff/...erspective.jpg
    http://www.fragtasia.de/bob/2dstuff/...ook/tut/p2.jpg
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    post more !

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    Thank you for your comments!.

    AK86: ill do it sooner or later, thanks!.

    Notorious K.A.B.: Done, thanks for the advice.

    Envisor: Thanks a lot, i started today to study andrew loomis on head studies, ill study the rest of the body more ahead, thanks.

    -sideshowbob-: Thakns for the advice, i also did those in the past, it really helps, im going to keep doing them of course but in the future, right now im more interested in getting lighting and feeling shapes right.

    Thank you all.

    This morning (i woke up at 5 am! pld: ) i studied "figture drawing for all its worth", it was a good time for learning some more shading things, yesterday i also started to draw heads from andrew loomis "drawing the head and hands", ill start posting my studies on that tommorrow. Heres my study of today, as allways comment please
    Oh and i discobvered that applying too much black makes the drawing look too muddy, so its better to leave some texture on it

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    Thanks again for the compliment and advice!

    Keep up those studies man! Its about time I create some devoted studies.

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    Thank you.

    This ones are my first skull studies, mhh i think im learning slowlly but steady , please comment or advice, thanks.

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    These latest studies are showing much more promise. I think it might be in your best interest to use pencil and paper as much as possible. When you're learning how to draw, the most direct method of putting lines down on the paper is best. That way, you don't handicap yourself by adding another intermediary like a tablet and photoshop. Those tools will still be there in 6 months to a year when you're a stronger draftsman.

    Anyway, it appears that you already know this, seeing as most of these appear to be done by hand, rather than digitally. Just something to keep in mind for future reference.

    Not much left to say besides more life drawing, more referencing, more lighting studies. Keep up the good work.

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    Hey thanks for stoping by my sketchybook
    Yes i have been training with my tablet when i got it and now i draw with the tablet just as as i draw with pencils, and those images you see are made in photoshop with my wacom intuos 3 6x8, im experimenting with textures and making brushes that look like pencils. But i still do drawings in pencils now and then, not much often though because i need to train my tablet skills too, thats very important for me to get better as fast as posible with it.

    Thanks a lot for your comments i really appreciate it

    And heress more, critiques advice and things like that are very welcome, thank youuu.

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    wow great improvements man!
    your awareness of planar shifts is great! i love the texture
    and lines and everything. keep working hard man!

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    Thank you for your kind words, i appreciate the support of fellow artist

    Here are some things i did today, more to come hopefully.

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    Planes are hard.
    Here are the heads i did today more coming soon. Advice appreciated, thanks.

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    Good going, Christian, these exercises are very basic stuff. On the last heads, it looks like the chin is protruding too much. Probably cause you draw the nose a bit too flat.
    Anyway, keep going!

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    Thanks for the advice, i tried to correct that now, mhh, im still having problems of course, and i still look for more advice

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    Esos estudios de cabezas estan bien eh?
    la verdad es que controlar la anatomia es dificil, pero necesario... yo dejaria de lado el tema geometrico, e intentaria hacer cosas mas organicas, con referente real. para ir soltando la mano y hacer los dibujos menos rigidos.
    buen trabajo, un saludo.

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    Gracias por el consejo, creo que me voy a poner a hacer autoretratos dentro de poco entonces .

    Thank you for your comments.
    I have this problem in wich i allways support my arm to draw and i use too much my hand and wrist, i guess that this is bad for my drawings, maybe i need to train myself to lift my arm allways, im going to practice with that.

    So, im going to take a break now because this ones where very frustrating. Advice and comments very welcome thanks.

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    Today i went to draw big circles to get to use my whole arm, now my arm feels weak, i guess this is good because it has shown that i was weak in using my arm in the correct way, this heads are the result of todays training.

    Loomis confuses me sometimes, im studying his head made of squared planes and i see the planes dont make sense, they dont fit together like they should, thats a little frustrating...

    I also was thinking that maybe im lifting my arm too much?, what is the correct position of the arm to draw correctly?, i have this wood thingy where i put me tablet and i have to rotate my shoulder so my elbow is horizontal, like at lets say four o clock if it where a clock, maybe thats not healthy? or wrong?, or what is the correct height of the tablet?.

    Ok, advice appreciated, thanksss.

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    Damn,you hit those studies pretty hard,good,now put 'em to use!Try some potraits from ref non-ref doesn't matter,also get some figures in here,anything from your head,I don't care post it..As for using your whole arm,I don't know what to say(I'd imagine keeping it raised is tiresome though).I personally keep my arm at about 90 degrees(L shape) and it doesn't bother me...hope that helps.

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    Hi thanks a lot for those advice, ill do them once i finish with my arm training, because to be more clear i have my tablet at the height of my chest (now its at 82 cm from the floor to my chest), and i have researched a little and the height of the desktop should be like 10 cm less that it actually is (im going to grab my saw and start cutting my desk ), it would then become ergonomically correct, but, i imagine that if i push my arm to make more effort than it should normally do, then when i switch to a correct height then it will be much more easy to move my arm. I have also filled a bottle of water to make circle movements as an excersize to make my arm stronger, its quite tough.
    Ok, i have been doing big circles all this time so i dont have much to post... but i will in a few days. Thanks again.

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    After a little of more thought i decided to cut my desk to a comfortable height right away, since i figured that i could train my arm along the way, so, anyway, now its much more comfortable and feels more natural

    So, i have been doing some pencil sketches but they are horrible, i tried to make my own faces but i need more training before trying that, so, back to loomis heheh, here are some faces, advice appreciated thanks.

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    I did a little thingy, just to loosen up...

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    I have been doing some paper and pencil sketches... they suck , anyway, this is my progress, there is a self-portrait i tried to do that came horribly wrong, but ill continue doing them to see if they make me better or not even if they dont come out really well.

    So, advice appreciated, thanksss.

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