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    Icon Only 10% make it

    well my goal is to become an illustrater, and just recently i found out from a dude that only 10% of artists make it, because there is no money in the industry. i frankly duno weather its true or just bull. so i was hoping i can get some opinions from you guys?
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    Actually I've had the same question. That's really the biggest reason I haven't jumped right into art academy. It's a big debt and I'm afraid if I dig myself a whole I wont be able to get myself out of it.
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    ...this maybe true, but there IS money to be made in Illustration, it depends where you look, and how you look for it. There are plenty of industries to be drawing for, plenty of agencies to join, plenty of magazines, books, game cards etc to be worked on. At the moment, I'm pushing towards illustration work; I've had a few commissions(mainly corporate) but its a learning experience and will eventually lead me to where I wanna go...Its not easy. I'm pursuing the painting skills I've always wanted and becoming the freelance artist I always wanted to be, in return rendering me a poor student the majority of the time....You could stay OUT of art School, but how are you going to get the illustration commissions, if you dont have at least some art/conceptualizing skills?
    Theres plenty people here who are illustrators, and they are doing fine.

    ....10% may only make it, but you dont have to listen to statistics now do you?

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    If you want to be an artist for the money, then you're in the wrong industry. While I don't believe in the "starving artist" analogy and neither do I know the actual numbers of who tried and failed....its safe to say in ANY industry, only the strong survive.
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    I think art... for the use of it most people here want to make, there is nowehere to go but up.
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    well as for me, im still in hs. and i just want to make a living. not planing to be a millionare from art, but just to live and have soem spare cash thats all
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    I don't know what "make it" is supposed to mean? And where the hell does one come up with a statistic like that. FYI, there is a shit load of artists making shit loads of money with their talents.

    The only ones who aren't are ones sitting around believing they can't.
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    That sounds like a fair percentage, although anything is going to be a very rough approximation, depending on how you define "artist" and "make it." Success in any creative field is difficult. What percentage of actors, musicians, dancers, or writers do you think actually make a living doing those things?

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    Im with Otis...what does "make it" mean. Does "make it" mean working in the film/book industry? Or making money with your art and being able to live on your own? Cuz there's plenty of folks doing the last thing and enjoying it.

    I'm happy doing my art for a living. As long as I do that, it doesnt matter if I'm famous or whatever.
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    90% of the people studying art don't put nearly enough effort into their art to "make it" in any industry.

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    Elewell: so being a good artist is like being a good singer, its on par with those crafts?...cool! never thought of that

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    Just make sure you become good enough to be in that 10 %...

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    never thought about the money. wonder if its like possible to buy house and car and shit for the money earned by beeing concept artist.

    its like fun and then you think maybe i shouldnt get paid for fun jobs? you know. then perhaps a scientist thinks its fun to watch germs in a microscope all day and get paid for it. so that whould be awesum to get money for doing this . where i come from most ppl choose boring jobs so they can be much happier at vacations and such. never understood why, but thats how it works. many seem to need pain to appreciate pleasure.

    ok i can only mention like 5 guys at CA.org that seem to be doing allright. you know, house, car and shit paid for by art made by them. could be wrong thou.

    btw: i have just been sleeping 1 hour when i wrote this, becouse i woke up and it felt like someone had open my head and trowed in a firecracker. if it dont make any sence that is. wierd shit, better see a doctor about that.
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    f*ck people who say such things. Don't listem to them.

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    90% of the people studying art don't put nearly enough effort into their art to "make it" in any industry
    right on! And all creative industries, as Elwell said, are comparable. Actually, I think some are even steeper. Musicians and actors have really got sort of a million to one shot, I think an illustrator at least has the benefit of being judged mostly by their skill level and not so much by image and representation (big biz music and acting being all about hype)

    ok i can only mention like 5 guys at CA.org that seem to be doing allright. you know, house, car and shit paid for by art made by them. could be wrong thou
    I think I can say triple without even hardly trying. Quite a number of seasoned pros 'round here, and a great many more up-and-comers
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavePalumbo
    right on! And all creative industries, as Elwell said, are comparable. Actually, I think some are even steeper. Musicians and actors have really got sort of a million to one shot, I think an illustrator at least has the benefit of being judged mostly by their skill level and not so much by image and representation (big biz music and acting being all about hype)
    so that basicly means that we can dress any way we want .

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    If its your goal man. I can't see how a statistic can seriously deter you.

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    you could always get into advertising ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinglessXAngel
    recently i found out from a dude that only 10% of artists make it
    75% of all quoted statistics are invented on the spot.

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    Seen it before Dogfood... Nice try though.


    When I was doing a project about art careers in 8th grade, I kept reading how competitive the industry is, and blah blah blah, and I was like "Oh maaaaan...." But then, now that I've seen a bunch of stuff around here and there, I realize that it's not that competitive if you are motivated and you just want to keep getting better. Do you think there is competition for the MB Guys? Maybe so, but if they leave, they can go practically ANYWHERE else they'd want, not only because of their rep, but their portfolio (This is all being assumed by the way, don't shoot me if I'm wrong) is also a big help. With a portfolio like theirs, I think few good studios would turn you down. Don't let statistics shake you at all, just know, as was said before, that even a large amount of that 10% don't try, most just got lucky and had connections. Make friends in the industry, then use them to help give you a hand.

    Hope I was helpful. Good luck to you!

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    I agree with the people in art school not applying themselves. It's ridiculous. I mean, most of 'em are going to school to "teach" afterwards. Their skill levels rarely show anything close to a seasoned artist. I mean, most of 'em are blown away by the fact that I keep a sketchbook and continually draw in it. Around here I ain't anything but they think I'm actually decently good. It's scary. lol I hope all of the art teachers in the country quit sometime soon so my fellow students can have jobs.

    And anyhow, art is all about the effort you put in, Illustration industry included. I know a lot of people who aren't very skilled but are making money as freelancers just because they're ballsy to go out and get their names and shit out there. You just have to do it. Sometimes I see some of the stuff and I think, hey, I may just be able to do this! Meanwhile, I don't stay complacent and just keep trying my best to improve. It ain't impossible. Tell Loomis that. Nothin' beats hardwork... I say all that knowing that I don't work nearly hard enough. But I'm learning! Hope you find some encouragment in these replies. Keep the faith, man!

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    if yer scared you might just quit right away
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    It's actually very easy. Just make sure you're part of that 10%.

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    Like Elwell, I would say 10% is pretty close, but it has less to do with the number of jobs out there and how much money they pay and more to do with the fact that 90% of those who try are severly deficient in at least a couple of the of the skills and or traits required to pull it off. Business sense, reliability, consistency, ambition, personality, reliability, skill, talent, reliability, likeability, humility, and confidence etc.

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    The 10% figure is actually a bit on the optimistic side.

    One thing to keep in mind so this entire conversation makes more sense is that you...YOU...out there...have to be as good as you can be in as many things as you can. "Making it," whatever the hell that means, is simply a combination of all the right things coming together at the right time, and you being ready for it when it happens.

    I spread myself pretty thin over the last 4 decades, and I took a lot of criticism for it from some specialists, but I truly believe I was right. I compared it to an old bag lady with all her possessions standing on a street corner. If everything was in one bag, and somebody ran off with it, she was totally screwed. If she spread everything out into a huge bunch of bags, no matter what happened to some of the bags, she still had something left to fall back on.

    You future is in those bags. When something comes along, all you need to know to take advantage of it is to open the right bag. It makes a hell of a lot more sense than having to constantly react a minute too late to everything...

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    tnx for all th reply's guys

    @calle. its not that im scared, im really sure i can get in that 10% by pushing myself, i just wanted to know if it was another stupid ass bs statistic or something honost.

    so tnx again guys
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