Projects at Angel Academy of Art, Florence
Heya, in 2006 I started out at Angel Academy of Art in Florence. This thread documents what I'm up to and how the programme is going. There's also the occasional "how to" or step-by-step pics and please feel free to ask any kind of question and share your comments and crits!
The projects every student has to do, are the following:
Bargue Drawing - Level 1 (here)
Bargue Drawing - Level 2 (here)
Bargue Drawing - Level 3 (here)
Bargue Drawing - Level 4 (here)
Bargue Line Drawing - Level 1 (here)
Bargue Line Drawing - Level 2 (here)
Make Bargue-Style Line Drawing from Master painting (here)
Charcoal Cast Drawing - Level 1 (here)
Charcoal Cast Drawing - Level 2 (here)
Charcoal Cast Drawing - Level 3 (optional, white chalk on toned paper) (here)
Oil Cast Painting Level 1 - Grisaille (here)
Oil Cast Painting Level 2 - Full Palette (here)
Oil Cast Painting Level 3 - Full Palette (here)
Oil Still Life Level 1 (here)
Oil Still Life Level 2 (here)
Oil Still Life Level 3 (here)
Oil Still Life Level 4 (here)
UPDATE: I GRADUATED IN DECEMBER 2009!!! Filled with gratitude... I am not the same person.
I could probably write a small book about how the last 4 years have changed my life... If there is enough interest I could write a summary? Let me know!
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Bargue Drawing - Level 1
I had a hard time figuring out how perfect it has to be, how to get the smooth shading and the halftones, how dark/light I should go, and how to use the sawin thread to measure correctly..
It was a great great experience to see whole new universes emerge, when looking really closely and filling up those little dots with graphite, the grain of the paper becoming little mountains and valleys :]
It was fun! On to the next one! I'll try to be more accurate now from the beginning on, I spent a lot of time fixing mistakes..
Took me about 36 hours all in all.
Hope you enjoy!
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great job on the first one! Was this done with charcoal, and sight size?
I'm also copying one. It's plate no.5. I'm having the most difficult time correcting my mistakes. I think I need a mirror.
Anyway, looking forward to your other work!
I've noticed that my eye is getting better at seeing my own mistakes.
Great job Dorian! Good luck with the rest of your projects and I hope u continue to work hard on them.
 DRAW EVERYDAY >
lookin goooooood man! 36 hours is pretty amazingly fast. . .hehe wish my first one was like that. Anyway yeah very much looking forward to seeing more of your work as you progress through the program. One quick question about the curriculum, though - at this atelier (Pantura in the US) we do three graphite bargues, a charcoal, and then a minimum of 6-7 cast drawings before painting is begun. So it looks like you have more of an emphasis on bargues, and a faster progression after them into grisaille?
thanks for sharing
Great images and I can't wait to see more and see how everything progresses. Florence is such a great city, soak it up!
looking good man. great stuff on the reflected light in the shadowed areas. i can't wait to get to Firenze in October. How are you finding things? Found a good place to live?
i presume you're life drawing too, right? share some of those too, i'm sure i'm not the only one who'd love to see 'em.
wohoo, so many comments, thank you folks!
patdzon: thanks! nope, no charcoal yet, the bargues are all done in pencil. its about A4. *goes to mesure* exactly 24.7cm (hmm don't have an inches calculator, sorry). yeah, correcting mistakes takes a LOT of time.. I was quite a bit ahead of a girl in our class because she did the measuring really precise. she cought me when I was fixing all the stuff that was off and we finished together same bargue too, funny thing. but her shading is... unbelievable. I couldn't get it that smooth. will try on the next, its plate 1.60, I'm being very careful about the measuring now, want to get as much as possible correct right from the start
otherside: mine too! I think it's already starting to pay off!
jkior: hm yeah, 4 bargues, then two charcoal casts, then the grisaille. takes most students one or two years though, the instructors are really picky. (and that's good I think. it definitely shows in the final results)
madplanet: yes, florence is grrreat! beautiful place! thanks, I will try hard
fishw: found a nice place, yup! my lifedrawings suck.. and we're only doing gestures so far, no articulation, no shading/rendering at all. YET. the gestures take us three sittings at the moment, 1.5 hours.. lol.. we soohook
anyway. you asked for them, wouldn't have shown any :
(its half a day life drawing each day, which means 3 hours)
and from the BEAUTIFUL flayed figure cast:
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Great work dorian,
I'm coming to study at Angel in September of this year, I can't wait! Looking at your work makes me wish i was already there.
Keep up with the long tedious hours and keep producing beautiful drawings,
Great stuff, in answer to how perfect. As perfect as you can make it.
Becky: heya, thanks! cool, I really like some of your stuff, lookin forward to meeting you! thanks for the kind words
E.M.GIST: thanks. yup, that's right ;]
some colored pencil from the open friday night short poses
feels good not having to measure and being super-exact, very relaxing!
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Great looking stuff, Dorian! My brother studies at the Angel school in Toronto. In fact I've seen the very same bargue out of him. Awesome program they seem to have. I seriously wish I could've gone. Lucky bastards, you are.
I like the last one. As for the previous drawings, there are still errors on these . Even though you're not going for dead accuracy, try your best to make it so. Use knowledge of the block-in, and always check the alignments.
looking forward for more!
Tully: yeah I'm really really enjoying it so far!
patdzon: thanks, yeah I'm just slowly starting to find the right balance between measuring with the knitting needle and eyeballing. also I feel my eye really gets better, and I try to train this by putting down the best guesses I can make before measuring with the needle. (before I used to make a sloppy "could be about there"-guess and then just measured to find the point. now I'm measuring to verify the guess.)
29th of January 2006 - 23rd of February 2006
done with my level 2 bargue!
I looove to spend the time getting the tones really smooth, to other people in my class this seems to merely be a "pain in the ass" :]
it's plate 60. going to level 3 as first one in my group!
about 100%, it's 25cm in height
aand a figure drawing for fishw
from a short-poses-friday-night
(I know proportions suck, but I kind of like the flow )
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what a splendid job!!!
I've a question. What is the technique of making smooth transitions of tone using graphite?
Looking forward for more updates!
thank you, it's fun! (it really is it's as well time-consuming, but I really enjoy it)
we divide values in: light - halftones - shadow
light = paper showing
halftones = lighter tones of shadow
shadow = rather dark shadows
1. Shadow Shapes
First you lay down an even tone in areas of shadow, which means the rather
dark shadows such as in the center of the back and between and below his
bottomcheeks. (easy identifyable by squinting) preferably make the tone the
lightest value that is in the area, since you can easily get darker later -
making it lighter involves going back in with a kneaded eraser and then
probably with pencil again, because it's spotty and/or too light..
We use a 2B for this step.
2. Variations of the darks
get the darker darks in there, as well as lighter tones, which are probably
reflected lights. on the bargue you also want to get the same edge quality,
hard edges / soft edges / lost edges,
maybe using the stomp. if not, your pencil will do, 2B or HB
Now it's time to take care of the subtler changes of value. We start with a
small brush to bring some graphite in the halftone areas. The adjustments are
made with the pencil, maybe a 2H
An understanding of rendering basic elements like sphere/cube/cone/cylinder
will help a lot.
Hm ok, just realized that you just asked how to make it smooth... heh. hope
someone can make use of the above stuff..
the most important thing: sharp pencil.
it's just a physical issue, if your point is thicker than the grains of the paper,
it will move over the little valleys and holes, instead of travelling through
them, filling it all and thus creating a smooth tone.
You get it smooth by darkening areas that appear to be lighter than the
surrounding tone, and vice-versa: lightening areas that appear to be darker
than the surrounding tone. The first one using your pencil, the second one
using a kneaded eraser or rather hard brush.
In the end it is really just a matter of going in with a very sharp point and
filling little white dots in the grain with graphite, for it are these dots (as well
as the small lighter/darker areas) that make a tone look uneven.
you need some time, some patience and - to say it again - a sharp point.
Maybe a harder pencil, HB or 2H, depending on what value the tone is you're
working on, (soft = dark / hard = light) is more convenient, because a 2B or
softer gets blunt fairly quick and needs to be sharpened every other minute..
we use long points, first getting rid of quite a piece of the lead (2-3cm) using
an exacto knive and then sharpening on sandpaper, making a point that starts
tapering evenly from where the lead stops, ending in a sharp point.
beware: upon completion of this process you are in possession of a deadly weapon!
sidenotes on using the brush:
-brushes tend to make light areas darker and dark areas lighter
-don't brush the same area too long/often, it might damage the paper (especially
brushing-erasing-brushing gives a very unpleasant splotchy-ness that is hard to
get rid of. (still showing on the left side of my back.. I was experimenting.. )
hope that helps!
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