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    doodledoes II - DAILY drawings & paintings - please share your thoughts!

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    Heya! I'm starting a new thread now to keep some order and because I moved to florence and started at the angel academy of art.
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    NUMBERS: I still give a number to every painting/drawing created, I started with #1 on 1.1.2004. reeally bad drawings don't get a number and don't get scanned in either - besides these you can see pretty much everything I do in this thread, as a documentation of my process (which I hope there will be... )
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    You can find the old thread over there: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32463
    There is pretty much all of my stuff from jan.2004 - dec.2005
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    soo, enjoy! I'd be VERY happy to hear any comments and critiques that come to your mind!
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    someone has to catch dorian before he flys up the steps!!!


    Admire your shading, just keep working on facial features... or don´t!

    Have to pm you the next day.

    GOOD LUCK in Italy!

    Xaya

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    this looks to be an exciting thread! wish u all the best in florence! Hope you enjoy your new life lookin forward for updates!

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    1st of January 2006
    #1 vs. #1324
    I drew the idea from the very first of the daily drawings again - 2 years later
    open canvas



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    Woah, another of those guys with really cool styles... Not much to comment on here, though! :wipkrack!:

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    6th of January 2006
    didnt draw much, but been moving to florence, saying goodbye to friends, family and girlfriend. sad




    7th & 8th of January 2006
    copied from a bougereau postcard I bought at the piazzale michelangelo




    8th of January 2006
    tourists in front of the duomo




    9th of January 2006
    first day of school! we started the level 1 bargue drawing!!
    this takes some people 2 weeks, others 3 months... soo... will post later


    10th of January 2006
    2nd day of school, whaaa I LOVE THIS PLACE!!
    so much incredible art on the walls... and (even more important and impressive) so much beautiful work on the easels, being created..
    teachers can actually draw themselves, a whole new experience.. tehe..

    traced gestures from old masters paintings and drawings
    to practice decisions about curve types: straight lines, c-curves and s-curves




    10th of January 2006
    one more sheet. looks ugly, but hey...



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    Holy cow!!! Angel Academy! How much are you payin!!! WOooooooooooooo, I wanna go there too.


    Cool sketches, and really cool comparission! Keep it up!

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    Xaya: haha thank you!
    Cok3: new life, indeed! I'm REALLY enjoying it so far!! thanks!
    serpia:
    fooxoo: yes it's kind of expensive.. 2'800€ (about 3000$?) a term, 3 terms a year. without food and accommodation that is.. but hell so far I think it's worth the money!


    10th of January 2006
    we had to do gesture sketches of the drawings we had traced, but in a bigger scale.. kiiiinda hard...?!
    (focus on idea/line-concept though, not too much on proportions yet)




    11th of January 2006
    upscaled copy of a gesture drawing. measurement is done with a knitting needle.. feels so damn awkward...




    12th of Janaury 2006
    quickie for fun, roommates wanted me to draw something



    12th of January 2006
    more of the gesture dudes
    having a hard time measuring...



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    13th of January 2006
    switching from 2d to 3d for the first time,
    gesture drawing of a flayed figure plaster cast




    13th of January 2006
    another copy à la knitting needle




    14th of January 2006
    there's a quiet (probably rather unknown) museum near the place I live, with awesome old master paintings, a last supper by andrea del sarto and some of his drawings. did some copies/studies/whatever there:




    14th of January 2006
    piazza della signiria, in front of the palazzo vecchio and the uffici gallery
    damn that's hard..!



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    15th of January 2006
    one more of these




    15th of January 2006
    one more, on the left are the originals
    as said before, we had to copy the gestures on the white sheet to a bigger scale, using a knitting needle for measurements..




    16th of January 2006
    life model for the first time! still using the needle and a plumb weight to find plumbline on the model!
    if you guys want to know anything about the process etc., just ask!




    materials
    the knitting needle is missing but I guess everyone knows what these guys look like.. ;]
    whee, sharpened pencils!


    uh. german.. sorry

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    17th of January 2006
    life drawing




    18th of January 2006
    life drawing..
    we started the bargue line drawing today, will take a few weeks, so I'll post it when its finished! (its on the back of the drawing board where my level1 bargue is, dont wanna carry these on my bike through the whole city.. )




    18th of January 2006
    there's optional life drawing on wednesday (long pose) and friday (short poses), I'll go to both for shure!!
    this from today (wednesday), I left the easel after two sittings (1hour) and continued on my own, having fun with the pose




    19th of January 2006
    ok, here's a really bad one, but all I got from today so it gets scanned..
    hard.. extreme fore-shortening




    20th of Janaury 2006
    life drawing
    I tend to go to the details to soon
    we're still supposed to stay in the gesture phase and get these very accurate
    the one on the right is from the evening short poses session, 5 minutes so no time for measuring. I went over it again before scanning to get the lines darker. the measured one does not look THAT much better, I dont know if thats a good or a bad sign




    20th of January 2006
    from the short poses, too




    21th of January 2006
    sans ref, for fun. man thats an ugly one...



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    would you mind kind of explaining the procedure a little? and at the risk of sounding like a rube, that picture of your tools had me scratching my head. are those pencils like, crazy lead sticking out time, or what? oh, i like your sketchbook, too.

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    -j-: ok, the needling process:

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    take model and place on model stand

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    put paper on drawing board, put drawing board on easel

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    draw vertical (aha!) plumbline on paper, mark hight of drawing, e.g. 25cm. for standing figure, 20 for seated, mark top, bottom and middle on plumbline

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    take your plumbweight (with string attached, hold it up and find a plumbline on the model. something in the center of the figure makes sense, maybe in relation to the feet and (/or) top of figure. it's also very handy if the plumbline runs through significant points such as points of change of direction at knee, elbow, etc. lay down plumbweight and try to remember exactly where you decided to run your plumbline through the model. when you're not shure, check again with the plumbweight.

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    first, mark altitude and angle of hips and shoulders. take your knitting needle and measure. e.g.: measure from top of the head (mostly = top of the drawing = top of the plumbline on your drawing paper) down to the hips like so: hold your knitting needle in front of you so that its top meets the top of the models head, then try to mark the altitude of the hips with your thumb. (kinda hard and awkward, but you get used to is.. ) keep this measurement marked with your thumb and check --- how many times this measurement fits into the whole figure ---. so, since you measured from the top of the figure down to the hips thats already -1 time- on your counter. move down your hand and put the top of the needle where your thumb was before. now see where the "bottom" (= zero altitude..) of the model is, (probably at the feet) and try to name how big the overlapping part of the needle is, compared to the measurement you took before (top of head to hips). what you get might be something like:
    man explaining this is a pain in the ass, I should make a video or something...
    aanyway:

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    now go back to your drawing paper (you were measuring on the model until now) and place a guess, a pencil mark where you THINK the hips could go. then redo the measuring just described. measure down (on your drawing) from top of the drawing (top of the plumbweight = (probably) top of the head of the model) down to where you placed your mark and check if this new measurement --- also fits into the whole height of your plumbline (top of plumbline to bottom of plumbline on drawing paper) the same two and a half times.

    so you measure on the model and get: "my measurement (top of head - hips) fits in the whole figure two and a half times."
    and compare it with the mark of the position of the hips on your drawing. if it only fits in 2 times, your measurement is too big, which means you placed the hips too low. ecco: erase the mark and place it a little higher. then check again until you end up with "my measurement (top of plumbline - pencil mark of hips) fits into the whole height of my plumbline two and a half times".

    I hope that makes any sense....
    you can of course measure from the bottom of the drawing/model or compare the measurement from hips to bottom of chin or to measurement from left elbow to right elbow etc.
    start with big measurements/big distances first!

    phew..


    22nd of January 2006
    sketching day!




    23rd of January 2006
    life drawing




    24th of January 2006
    tried to measure everything. I tend to start eyeballing very early and thus often get some big measurements wrong..
    excessive measuring doesn't work for me, though, as this drawing perfectly shows..




    25th of January 2006
    excessive eyeballing works better




    25th of January 2006
    the optional evening figure drawing was packed with people, no place left for me, soo I spent some time studying my favorite cast, the flayed figure. fell in love with it.. incredible shapes
    drawing turned out prettier than expected, seems my eye is getting better!



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    26th of January 2006
    life drawing




    27th of January 2006
    life drawing




    27th of January 2006
    for fun during the breaks




    9th - 27th of January 2006
    FINISHED MY LEVEL 1 BARGUE DRAWING TODAY!!
    took me about 36 hours, together with a classmate we were the first ones who finished it, I'm glad it didn't take me 3 months like it does other people for one drawing

    on to level two!



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    30th of January 2006
    started the level 2 bargue yesterday! will post in a few weeks..

    gesture..




    31st of January 2006
    life drawing




    1st of February 2006
    heh.. well ahm.. ;]




    1st of February 2006
    life drawing



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    2nd of February 2006
    our model didn't show up, so we sat for clothed short poses for each other




    3rd of February 2006
    open life drawing on friday evening, it's very relaxing to draw without all the measuring stuff, just "let it flow" and see what happens




    3rd of February 2006
    from the same night



    and a close-up, didn't really catch her actual face, but the expression was pretty much the "maan it's friday night, why the %&/* do I have to lie here...."



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    Why haven't I checked back on this thread earlier? You're doing great, I can really see how the life drawings keep getting better! Your doodles are great too! Keep it up!

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    Nice sketcbook you have .It's great you are in Florence.And thanks for the long explanation for the figure drawing.
    I wondered how big is your Bargue copy cause I am also starting one ?
    And have a nice time there

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    Serpian: thanks man, glad you like!
    heartbeat: heya, the bargue is about 25cm in height. make sure you get a good reproduction, I think a color-laser-copy out of the bargue book is best!

    6th of February 2006
    life drawing..



    7th of February 2006
    life drawing..




    8th of February 2006
    life drawing..




    9th of February 2006
    life drawing..




    10th of February 2006
    life drawing..




    10th of February 2006
    30min portrait, clearly a beginners drawing, yet I feel it's the best I've done so far, in terms of likeness




    10th of February 2006
    loosely after velasquez



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    13th of February 2006
    life drawing




    14th of February 2006
    life drawing




    15th of February 2006
    life drawing





    16th of February 2006
    life drawing




    17th of February 2006
    life drawing




    17th of February 2006
    friday night open life drawing




    18th & 19th of February 2006
    weekend fun



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    20th of February 2006
    life drawing (construct stage, 1.5h)




    21st of February 2006
    life drawing (construct stage, 1.5h)




    22nd of February 2006
    life drawing (first time articulation stage, 3h - plenty of time)



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    29th of January - 23rd of February 2006
    finished my level 2 bargue!
    plate 60, it took me 3 weeks. finished as first one, though, starting level 3 tonight, a few classmates are still on level one soo.. "sono contento"




    and here about 100% in size, it fits on a A4 sheet. its about 25cm in height



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    Damn, I think I really can see some progress here, just by looking at the first posts and the weekend fun.
    Hmm... hope you haven't killed any one with those pencils of yours (yet).
    Hope I can join you in Florence someday
    But as I wrote in the Florence thread you've started, I'd need some help with my portfolio. Is there any chans you would like to show me the potfolio you sent to Angels?

    Hugs!

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    hey, thanks! yeah, drawing feels different, I think the bargue has taught me how to make smoother tones and pay more attention to every line.
    the portfolio was basicly my folder with all the drawings. they're in the doodledoes 1 thread over here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32463
    (I was there in feb 2005, you'll even find some drawings made in florence :] )
    as I said, it doesn't matter so much what you show. just make clear you are willing to learn and - rather sad but true - able to pay..

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    Dorian man i love your life drawings, all the constrcution lines and stuff look really good, awesome way of gettin proportions and stuff.

    Just wandering about your bargue drawing, what medium is it done in.. love the way the rendering is really smooth and creates real nice form. Any info is cool, id like to have a go at trying one

    thanks, andy.

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    Wow Dorian, its great to see how much your hard work and training in Florence has paid off. Your progress has been amazing to watch. I posted some questions on the Florence thread before I discovered your new thread. Got any hints for me on summer accomodation in Florence? Something clean, safe and AFFORDABLE :p etc. That'll be sweet. Thanks

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    andy: thanks maan, having a wonderful time the bargue is a normal pencil drawing, for technical how-to stuff check my thread in the fine art & study thread over here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60494
    queensoul: finding cheap accomodation is not too easy, but there is some places because there are lots of international students here. As suggested in the florence thread: check http://www.studentsville.it!


    23rd of February 2006
    life drawing




    24th of February 2006
    life drawing




    24th of February 2006
    "Live Art" - event in florence! 9m of canvas (well.. wobbly cardboard.. ) and 11 participants! Me and a guy from school excluded, everybody else was abstract, some people painting with their hands, going over everybody elses stuff, etc... fonky
    not too happy with my part, but it was a fun evening!

    pics are here: http://www.florenceforfun.org/index.php?lng=1&id=501

    (me in the front in black)




    27th of February 2006
    life drawing




    28th of February 2006
    life drawing
    right, we're adding lineweight and overlaps!!




    1st of March 2006
    more life drawing
    sorry if these bore/annoy you guys...

    couldn't resist in adding some decorative elements and a face
    the teachers don't like stuff like this too much but I think it's very healthy to have fun with what you're doing.



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    1st of March 2006
    life drawing




    2nd of March 2006
    life drawing




    3rd of March 2006
    life drawing
    still concentrating on lineweight and overlaps




    6th of March 2006
    life drawing
    shadow shapes!




    7th of March 2006
    life drawing




    8th of March 2006
    life drawing
    we're not supposed to draw faces and any details whatsoever.. cannot withstand...



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    8th of March 2006
    anatomy from vanderpoel. his drawings don't seem too strong in explicating the form to me, but we have to copy all the drawings from his "the human figure" for school
    bottom right is bammes (quick copy). vanderpoel is a good read, though!



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    Hey man, really nice sketchbook, i really like your progressive life drawings, they're looking really solid so far, now that you're adding line weight it looks even better.
    It seems you're receiving a really good training.
    Keep it up and good luck
    Cheers

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