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    Quick Sketches

    Here are some 5 min quick sketches I did from last week:

    Quick Sketches


    This is my first post and I am just testing to get an image on screen. Hope it works


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    hmm, i like these, what size are these in real life?

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    Cool, they went through!!

    For 5 min. I like to keep them small around 6" to 7" size. Here's some more from this week's workshop:

    Quick Sketches

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    cool i like these too, waiting to see if anyone has replied to your posting is addictive no?

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    Yeah, this is my first time posting on forums. I freelance and it's hard to get feedback while working alone. I am looking forward to hear any critiques and suggestions.

    I am working on my portfolio right now. Can't wait to put up some rough concepts up for some second opions.

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    wow !! Wonderful drawings Kevin.
    I also visited your website, your figure paintings are quite impressive.
    Keep up the great work !

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    what i see here is some very developed skills

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    Thanks guys. I am glad you like them

    I'll post more stuff as I do more studies over this week.

    Here are some color studies I did on Fechin and Donald Puttman:

    Quick Sketches

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    yikes, i need to take some classes with you

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    i love the sketches, they have a great sense of depth and volume.

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    Wow, those are cool. You give a lot of info in five minutes...

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    These are excellent! Gesture, values, and contour are all really good. I'd love to see more.

    -Bone

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    Here are some older 10 min studies:

    Quick Sketches

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    omg! these are absolutey top drawings

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    Jesus, man.. those are 10 min studies? and the others are like 5 minutes my god. they are awesome.

    you still see some great amount of detail in so little time.

    may i ask, how you were able to draw so quick and detailed? i mean for me to get at least to 10 mins. of your last sketch I need to spend like 1 hour.

    seriously though, any thoughts or ideas i appreciate, because no matter how hard i try, i end up taking longer on a sketch and i want to minimize my time, to be able to retain and gain beauty with the object i'm studying

    something like what your doing.

    thx and keep up the excellent work kevin, hope u don't mind me calling you by your first name

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    Hey bytempat, it's no problem, you can call me Kevin anytime.

    As for the drawing, it comes down to practice and understanding the subject. You have to draw and study to help you understand the form, plane, and function of the body which just copying can't teach you.

    You need to understand the basic concept of how to create illusion of form on flat surface and how to break the body down to simple masses.

    Once you are comfortable with drawing a generic figure in space. Your focus becomes acting and proportional differences between people.

    It's like learning to draw a cylinder. Once you know how to draw a tube, it is easy to draw a rusty pipe, baseball bat, and any other object of different proportion and characteristic.

    In 5 min, I am not really seeing all these details for the first time. I am relying on my memory to know what to look for. What I am seeing and paying attention to is how all the body parts relate together under one thought and mood. So the acurracy of the little details isn't as important as the big picture. I can always come back and render the small details correctly if I get more time (use model as a model sheet). But mood and gesture only stay a split second.

    I have been drawing people consistantly for 9~10 years and a good 2 years on movement, 2 years on simplfying form, 2 years on value, and now trying to focus on acting. I just barely getting into color and starting to get exposed to compostion.

    I guess it is the accumilation of all these mental notes from the figure that allows me to know what's on the figure without looking at one.

    It's a lot of work but you will be amazed how much you can accomplish by setting small goals and working hard consistantly. I was lucky to have a teacher who showed me that.


    Hope this answers your question

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    hmm, that does explain a lot, it makes sense in the fact that everything has it roles in the big picture of the subject your rendering, the form, plane, parts of body, etc.

    that would explain why, when i try to mimic something i see, it comes out stiff, i'm not seeing the bigger picture and i get absorbed in the detail. this will take some time to re-write myself to think in that manner, but to get to where u are at and more, it'll be worth it.

    guess now i'm going to have to check out any nearby schools to see if they have life drawing classes i can take for free? they do have that at colleges right?

    thx for your tip and insight
    and hopefully, i'll figure out how to scan newsprint so i can put up my work for some crits.

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    bytemap,
    I think usually workshop are going to cause you some money. But sometimes teachers I met at JC is cool with people sitting in. Here are some sites that might interest you too for learning drawing:

    Glen Vilppu - great teacher for figure drawing
    http://www.vilppustudio.com/
    http://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.5/3.5pages/3.5villpu.html
    http://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.3/3.3p...pudrawing.html

    Andrew Loomis - best books on drawing
    http://www.fineart.sk/anat.htm

    Marshal Vandruff - amazing teacher. His students include Bernie Wrightson, Drew Struzan, and Justin Sweet.
    Great Lectures about Composition.
    http://www.draw123.com/

    Scott Robertson - great perspective drawing notes
    http://www.drawthrough.com/tutorials/index.html


    And here is just for something fun to read:
    http://quotes.prolix.nu/Authors/?Glenn_Vilppu

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    Know what I heard...

    damn... I seen these drawings somewhere before... maybe at a drawing workshop or something...

    Cool stuff, you've always been quite the draughtmans...

    Hey man... I see the paintings you have there...

    I'm not sure where you are going to take them, but right now they seem to be lacking value. and the same quality of structure your drawing have...

    I don't know the paintings in question off the top of my head, but adding that extra impact (especially in a study), just for yourself could make a big difference...

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    Hey SebSprek,
    Thanks for the comment. I'm kind of confused when you say lacking value. Did you mean putting in some dark shapes in the BG to pop out the forms or add some lights in the face to pop it out? On both the characoals (which one) and master copy(which one)?
    BTW, do you live in LA too?

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    ooh thanks for the links, sorry for late reply lol thought i miss a part in this thread.

    man such a wealth of information. got a lot of studying ahead of me, but fun with it too. btw what is JC? the college u work at?

    well i gotta admit, if i was in CA i'd be at your class right away it's ashame that there aren't much or any art colleges in NJ near me. closest ones i think are in philladelphia and New york. guess i'm gonna call a few family members in NYC hehe.

    thx again KChen

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    Hey bytemap,
    It's no problem.
    JC = Junior College.

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    few words on topic

    I'd like to share a kind of tecnique of drawing quick sketches. I myself tried it at my drawing classes...

    There we've got a group of 24 students. Each one is invited to act as model once. For the first sketch we're given 15 minutes. The prof says it's more than enough to do a sketch. Then another person is invited as a model. 12 minutes are given. Then 10min. 8, 6, 5, 4, 3.5, 2, 2.5, 2. And finaly we're drawing those sketches in 1,5 minutes! It's kinda tricky especially when you're doing it for the first time (sketching).

    But you know what? I noticed that at the end I drew better thoug less time was given. Not all of the sketches were nice. I can even say that only 2 or 3 of 24 were worth seeing but since this method develops skills, I find it very usefull.

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    Originally posted by KChen
    Hey SebSprek,
    Thanks for the comment. I'm kind of confused when you say lacking value. Did you mean putting in some dark shapes in the BG to pop out the forms or add some lights in the face to pop it out? On both the characoals (which one) and master copy(which one)?
    BTW, do you live in LA too?
    It could just be the scans, but the forms appear to be flat. There isn't very much form on the faces. You could add some light as well... depends on what kind of mood you'd like to set for the painting...

    Oh, I don't live in LA, well anymore, but I used to...

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    Beautiful work Kevin....the drawings remind me of a figure sketch by Rob Ruppel. Very stylized and expressive. Looks like you've honed the skill into a specific bent. I like the paintings you posted as well, but they are VERY different form the drawings in approach. ...almost more color theory-like. You've got a great handle on character as well. Thanks for the posts.

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    Hey Vudu,
    There is a things we did in class that was kind of interesting too. We started with 30 sec of pose, but we can only study and to memorize the pose. Then when the pose is over we can draw for 30 secs. At first the drawings were horrible because people usually forget what they see. Eventually we learn to memorize only the key action & counter balance of the pose instead of the details. We slowly legthen the poses and drawing time and are allowed to see the pose twice and draw twice. It was a great exercise because your limited memory helps you eliminate the extra details you see. It is also a great exercise to help you build your visual memory so you can draw from moving figures. The exercise really helps me to simplify what I see.

    Dave Seeley,
    Thanks, I am glad you enjoy the drawings. I like Rob Ruppel's stuff too. He use to teach at Associates In Art and they have some of his originals there. Really beautiful paintings.

    Here are some 2 min sketches:
    Quick Sketches

    Quick Sketches
    They are about 3~4 in. each

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    Really nice drawings! You have added some of "you" to that associates in art style.

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    !!!

    chen please never stop posting

    -Joshua

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    I see alot of the steve houston(sp?) style to your figures. Very nice.

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    wow nice figure drawings, unique style.

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