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October 31st, 2005 #1
*********** My Sketchbook attempt *************
Hi people! I am new here, and since I was so impressed and inspired by y'all I decided to post my work. At the moment I do it as a hobby, but I will definitely like to improve, and with the help of CA I think I will succeed!
About myself, well, I have been drawing since very little, but I did it because I liked it . I didn t do any studies or anything. But now I have started doing so, and I want to show what Im up to.
Please, crits n crits n more crits, any kind , are welcome. For starters, some sketches with pen.
Last edited by jtheanswer; November 8th, 2005 at 06:50 AM.
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Hey man. You've got a lot of good stuff going on here. I don't know whether you take measurements of your heads, but if you don't you'll save yourself a lot of time and keep yourself away from frustration if you measure. In my opinion nowadays (used to hate studying anatomy) proportions and anatomy is the key to being able to produce quality drawings in the future. I'm myself just starting to understand the importance of studying these things. It also reduces the amount of time you have to spend on one drawing. Keep posting and I will be following your progress. Btw... Thanks for visiting my sketchbook.
October 31st, 2005 #3
Good start here. I agree with Placeboast about the measurements for the heads. Pat attention to structure and form. On some of the profiles, the eyes are way off, they look almost as if viewed from the front. If you can, draw from life. I'd like to see some more, so post often.
November 1st, 2005 #4
Hi jtheanswer! What I´ve noted is that your heads have very sharp chins. And sometimes they are a bit too long. I´m thinking at the moment of buying a skull replica (besides using proper books for studying face anatomy) Maybe it would help you as well. I think that you would profit from it, as you´d get a feeling for the proportions.
November 1st, 2005 #5
Thkx people! Many thkx to all of you for spending your time and your words on my thread and giving some feedback.
You are all right, I will try to get down with some books asap.
Fat Kid - You got it damn right! Thats Angelina, I am surprised you recognised it. Also, I got some Anime influences, maybe thats why I got those proportions on the faces.
Here are some studies and some more sketches:
November 1st, 2005 #6
Hey there. Good studies here, I especially like that little dancer woman who's grabbing her foot. Really nice form on the legs and hips. I also like the rendering on your muscle studies...very readable.
Someone may have mentioned this already, but you might wanna take more time making sure your basic head structures are right before you start adding facial details. I have the same trouble a lot.
Thanks for your comments in my book.
November 3rd, 2005 #7
November 3rd, 2005 #8
nice studies and drawings!
it's really good to know how the body works, but as i can see, your main problem should be, that the lines dont look correctly positioned, right?
if so, i'd propose to start with geometrical figures like cylinders and cubes to construct the thing you want to draw.
for example my attempt to draw the human body (i dont know every muscle, so sideshowbob [<-- also from conceptart <-- he's my tutor] told me that there are still a lot of mistakes!):
as you can see, i started with those simple figures to draw that body
I hope, this helped you a bit.
Keep it up.
November 4th, 2005 #9
jtheanswer: Nice start to your sketchbook (good decision made that you joined us)
If I can give some hint (me is a noob but you wanted to hear crits etc. I would follow Panda´s advice:
see figure in a pure geometric manner dont bother with anatomy now! Build figures from reference using only cylinders boxes and ball for head. Look for balance of chest and pelvis - they are always in ballance (check some photos with interesting pose), look for stretch / compress in the body and weight (good for knowing where the weight is this rule: "The nose knows where the weight is." Check this rule by making a vertical line directly from nose to the ground, you will see that there will be the weight supported by foot.
Just my 2 cents! Keep up the work!!
November 5th, 2005 #10
It's great to see you doing all these studies, dude!!!
Well one main problem that I noticed in your studies, is that you do not really seam to have an idea about the skeleton or bones in general. It doesn't make any sense to study muscles, that are attached to the bones, without any knowledge about the skeleton itself. Study the constructive forms of the knee, pelvis, and torso, and then start to add muscles and after that start to add skin. In my opinion this is the most efficient way to learn : Bone -> Muscles ->skin. In addition to that the learning will become easier the more you learn, because when you know how all the joints work, it just needs a bit of logical thinking to find out and keep in mind, where the muscles are.
Just keep at it mate, don't give up and you'll be fine
November 5th, 2005 #11
Fat Kid - Thanks for your comments man! I just have couple of images of that book? Can you tell me the name of that book? I think you can download it from the internet? Not so sure.
max1975 - Thanks for your advice. Ive doing some head studies, Ill post it later some time, (the studies are harder than I thought).
johnny78 - Thx, I will try to keep up.
panda89 - Thx for your suggestion. I will try to work that out.
libor - Thx man!! Appreciate that.
gloominati - Thats cool! For a beginner, is better to start practicing with the skeleton and bones, or maybe the shapes, cylinders and boxes method?
A big thanks to all of you guys to pop up in my SB and show some appreciation and willing to help. Here are some more pics to show what I am up to.
November 5th, 2005 #12
November 5th, 2005 #13
try working on larger sheets of paper. too many of your studies are cramped. also, don't neglect working from life. it really makes a world of difference.
November 6th, 2005 #14
here is something i'm trying to work on that will help you
draw lightly, try to get a light h6, h4, h3 pencil and lightly sketch out then go back in and draw in the character applying preasure to make it darker
so that way when can erase the light sketch underneath and slightly lighten the darker pencil, in result you will have a clean sketch each time
and this is HUGE, try to just make one stroke to make a line, like using a pen
it trains you to be a quicker and precise artist
hope it helped, be checking in to see progress
November 6th, 2005 #15
madplanet Cool, glad to hear that!
antquin Yeah, it seems so. The sketchbook where I do the pen studies is a small one. The ones on pencil, I guess I am not used to draw in big scales.
BAKI For pencil I use a 2H, and a HB for the hard lines. I dont know if it is any good, but when I get some more practice, I will try to get some more pencils. But I still dont understand the difference between B and H?
November 6th, 2005 #16
pencils go from 9H the hardest and lightest to 9B softest and darkest, the H's are best for line drawing and detail, the B's for tone and more expressive drawing
i would start with cubes and cylinders, to get a feel for the basic proportions and volumes of the figure.. start with a general understanding then move into specifics of anatomy and skeleton structure when you have more confidence
keep on sketching
November 7th, 2005 #17
November 7th, 2005 #18
Just a suggestion: In the first sketch from post #13 (the back of the guy) the sholders seem to be just a bit too high. Like he is pulling them up.
And I think that it is a good idea to know each muscles name. That way you´ll get a better feeling for anatomy. Knowing how to name it leads to remembering it
I know, I´m a lazy bone.... I know only the names of the morst important muscles
November 7th, 2005 #19Registered User
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nice stuff you got here.. i wouldnt really recommend to start off with a ballpoint pen but i guess thats a personal choice. Cant really say anything else so far
November 8th, 2005 #20
Hey, you've got pretty far in your studies! There are still things you can improve, but I think you are well on your way to do that. Keep practising!
November 8th, 2005 #21
November 8th, 2005 #22
Well I'd say that you can use the cylinder method if ou want but that won't bring your further with your anatomy skills. When you practice anatomy with a good book, you will notice that everything can be built up from constructive forms, not as simple as cylinders but much more useful
Just keep at it mate and draw draw draw!!
November 8th, 2005 #23
November 8th, 2005 #24
I am feeling at this time now, so I just wanna post some stuff I ve been up to. I will reply you guys later.
Yeah, I know, its too long. Im having trouble on getting the proportions right.
I just got a cool book from the main library, "Anatomy for the Artist", from Jeno Barcsay, so I will be using it here and there.
November 11th, 2005 #25
FAt KiD Thanks man, I got it from ebay, lets see how long it takes.
karma0zero Cool man. Thanks for popping up here!
Placeboast Good to hear that.
johnny Got it man, but it seems to be the reference pic was like that as well. Yeah, the names, basically i did it cause it was in the reference drawing as well, but it helped me when doing posterior drawings.
krakel Yeah, i dont know, i feel more confi with pen when sketching. I guess i havent found the right pencil number yet.
Jane Thks for coming by. Yeah, I will try to improve. This aint the level i want to get.
tie Yeah, that will come later.
Gloominati n Shyamshriram Many thanx!!!
November 11th, 2005 #26
Ok, here are some sketches Ive been working on this evening. They are all with pen.
I am doing some head studies, based on Loomis, as well, but I will post it some other time. Its harder than I thought, basically, because I am still having problems on getting the proportions right (the distances between the chin and the lower lip, the size of the nose, the ears, the hairline, ...).
November 11th, 2005 #27
I llike your anatomy studies you are working nicley with lhow shadow falls on the faces in few pieces, I can only say work on your lines dont think of them as definite edges. Think of them as areas of light and shade thinner lines in the light areas thicker in darker areas. Keep it up.
November 14th, 2005 #28
November 15th, 2005 #29
Good characterization in the 2 faces in the upper right hand corner of #30. Also like the progress on the women...there's been a huge improvement since #13.
November 15th, 2005 #30Registered User
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Hey , nice studies.It seems that you are improving very quickly.
You could try to draw something from life for example some simple stilllifes.
The lighting of the basic shapes helps a lot in everything cause everything is made of them.I should also do some.
And post those Loomis heads