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Thread: i would KILL to be an artist!!!!1111 (heated fucking rant)

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    i would KILL to be an artist!!!!1111 (heated fucking rant)

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    You ever get this? I know our profession is cool, its cool beyond words, I'm beyond ecstatic on a daily basis that I get to do this for a living...but when people say "I would KILL to be doing what you are doing!" I get a little peeved.

    Firstly, no, you would not fucking kill to do what I do, because you wouldn't even give up drinking on the weekends and wasting away your nights watching TV. You are not up until 3am in the morning studying the complexity that is the human form in all its varied and complex systems. You are not running through endless reels of paper trying to understand a design concept that simply will no click, you are not sacrificing your personal time to constantly move your art to a higher level, you are not building your motor skills to a fine point by thousands of repetition.

    Thats the trouble with a lot of people I feel, they would KILL to have something that takes a lot of work to get to, if they could have that thing magically in the form of a "red pill". Its the reason why people buy lottery tickets, its the reason why people put up with shit jobs they hate and end up dying a wasted life bitching about it until the bitter end.

    If people understood the level of sacrifice most artists has to endure, they would NOT be envious, but we occupy a higher ground and plane of awareness that I feel many other people are not forced to develop.

    The other day I got rid of one of my jr artists, because they simply were not pulling their weight - this girl was hired before I was instated as an art director and I was lumped with this pathetic excuse for an artist.

    We are a small start up company and as such its understandable that everyone needs to pull their weight, this simply was not happening with this girl, she is everything I dispise and it took 6 months to finally convince the company director to jetison her lazy untalented ass out of our domain.

    She was hired on the basis that the director talked to her about game development before me, and thus had a moral obligation to hire her - he's a religious dude with strong "morality" for better or worse.

    Hers was was prototypical manga bullshit with no understanding of the human anatomy, incorrect placement of muscles and everything else under the sun. Had zero aesthetic skill understanding - although she TOOK aesthetics as a subject in industrial design, had no understanding of proportion, perspective, color theory ANYTHING. She slumbered on the job - literally slept under the fucking table at work George Kostanza style, and still had the guile to play it off like it was nothing. Never took any of my advice and continued on her merry way.

    It was under my charge to improve her to a respectable level...I couldn't fucking believe it. This bitch had been given a get out of jail card, and she still had no idea how easy she had it, her skills will never get her into any illustration job again, she will not be having anything shy of a 100% negative reference from me, to top it all off she had a poor self esteem, she had bulemia and she got into arguments with other staff members who were doing their job AND took this job for granted.

    I'm sorry, but none of your fuckups are my fucking problem, when we got rid of her she was crying, you know what? Cruel as it sounds, it gave me a lot of satisfaction and I found it hilarious, maybe she'd realise how much of a fucking loser she is and pull her finger out of her ass and do something with her goddamn life instead of moping about pissing people off with her compacency and laziness.

    What really got me while she remained employed, what REALLY fucking got my blood boiling, what really pulled my fucking noodle was this: there are people on this site who give 400% of their effort and draw constantly to improve their skills, yet illustration and concept design is a field of enormously high barriers to entry and thus high unemployment rate - most artists have to do something else to sustain themselves.

    Yet this lazy ass smart alec took her position for granted, a position that people would seriously wish for, like many of you guys here who put in so much effort and inspire me on a daily basis.

    I don't really know what I'm ranting about anymore, but I do want to give a kudos to all of you out in cyberland and the amount of hard work your guys do.

    For those of you who are not yet in the field, I implore you to never take things easy, never for once be satisfied with your skills, never once think of this as your birthright but a priveledge that so few will ever experience, an opening to a world of imagination to the lay person, it is a priviledge and your devine obligation to work hard to help people escape their mundane worlds, understand that you carry upon your shoulders the manner in which we will enter the future and you will inevitably drive yourself forwards in a more dedicated fashion.

    The sacrifices that only we as artists understand are what sets us apart from other people, when you question yourself - and you will - "is this all worth it!?" only you can answer that question, if the answer isn't a resounding yes, then you should question whether you are pursuing the right field, because when the shit hits the fan and teh going gets tough, if you're not in this for the long haul and prepared to travel through hell before reaching nirvana, then when you hit a rough patch you will break and you will look for a way out.

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    AYe aye..

    Must say i agree with ye, people just love to have things the easy way and the preach about how much are they willing to give up for it, and they will never be strong enought to give up anything.....People need to realize that you can´t have anything witout making sacrifices, but people just want everything XD, is dumb because nobody as the time to have everything.


    Personally i wake up 8 AM in the morning, i get my place toghether, feed the cat, the dog, take some break fast and i have everything set and ready to work by 9 , and i keep that up untill 3 or 4 am.

    Rest for me in either take a look in here for inspiration or just to see what is in today´s artistic minds, research about any subject to improve my design qualitys, do practice sketches or to spend some time with my family. I only see "Point pleasent" here on thusdays becuase i think the protagonist is just to damn beautyfull, and i love the psicological dramma, but besides from that, tv is off.

    I dont hang out with anybody, i dont drink, smoke, or have any vice whatsoever. I used to play video games, and now i just deleted any evidence of having them.

    I know what i have, i know what i had, and i know what i can have, and i did make some sacrifices to push my work to the next levels.....And im willing to make some more, just becuase it was my choice.

    My social life is 80% composed of taking care of my cat, i dont have time for people and i my idea of friend is someone that draws besides me, helps me and alows me to help him, thing that i dont have and im not especting to have.

    And though i dont have any social life, friends, games or vices, i never been so damn happy in my entire life.......art is EVERYTHING to me, and i dont seem to need anything else.

    Xd, now i got kinda late on the shedulle for this, but ill keept it up from now.



    Ah, and as for the gal you fired, i cant help to feel sorry for her, i hope she grows up after this and make the right choice about waht to do with her life from that point on
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    ...I seriously wished half you you people lived in my damn country.
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    Not having any friends seems a little unhealthy to me and I think I will always take time to maintain those bonds. That and my fondness for inebriation may hold me back just a bit. *cough*

    But honestly I don't see why you actually get ANGRY about it when people say "they'd kill to be an artist". They're just trying to say that they admire you for developing your talent and pursuing what you love, which is something most other people don't do and wish that they had later on. I don't know what it is about some of you guys here, but you manage to twist compliments into personal insults and actually get pissed about them. Now i WILL admit that it pisses me off when people say that, and when I explain to them it's more hard work than anything else, and then they start insisting that it's not and that I was born with the ability to draw. When they start arguing back, THEN i get a little annoyed. But good lord people relax, have a beer or something.

    I totally understand your sentiments towards that girl though, and THAT shit pisses me off. She got the whole "genie in the magic lamp" wish and just completely blew it.
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    I would kill to be Hugh Hefner....even if he is a an old guy.

    You should probably stop hiring people based on Bachelors Degree and hire based on ability.

    I have teachers wondering why I'm not in the business right now.....arrogance or honesty? I can only go by what people tell me.

    [Note] I'm taking a Bridgeman Art Anatomy class, and I've already taken 2 semesters of Human Anatomy in Biology.[/Note]
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    he didn't hire her, she was already there.
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    Cant be bothereed to read ur post .. but ur propably right
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    Magic Man,

    Your rant reminded me of a guy I knew back in middle school through high school. He was just about the opposite of the girl you had to fire. This guy back in 7th grade was already an accomplished artist. He created beautiful drawings for his friends in bands when they needed posters & announcements. I was also reminded of this guy when I saw the movie "Crumb." Like Robert Crumb, this guy came from a family of artists where it almost seemed like a genetic trait.

    As good as this guy was, he couldn't care less about his ability and after high school, while his friends & classmates went off to college, he went to work for a bike shop as a bike mechanic and never aspired to anything more. I have often felt that because his ability came to him so easily he put no value in it and lost interest. So if someone could indeed take a little "red pill" to give them all the ability they wanted, it would probably have the same effect.
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    I'm just antagonizing him. It's funny.
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    MAGICMAN,

    Honestly I was a little turned off by your rant; then I went and took a look at your sketchbook to see if you were entitled to speak from a position of authority.

    Suffice it to say, your work speaks much more highly of you than your rant

    I'm sorry you had to go through all that emotional turmoil with this misplaced soul. Their kind make their appearance everywhere, not just in the world of art.

    Quit kicking yourself about her though (or even her about herself). She isn't worth the trouble, at least not the way she is now. Hell, maybe in a few years your paths will cross again, and she'll be a better person or perhaps a better artist as a result of the business experience you were compelled to render unto her.

    If not, forget her. Spare her neither sweat nor adrenaline.

    And keep up the excellent work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSeRider
    You should probably stop hiring people based on Bachelors Degree and hire based on ability.

    I have teachers wondering why I'm not in the business right now.....arrogance or honesty? I can only go by what people tell me.
    Firstly, you should learn how to read - she was there before me.

    Secondly, I've seen your work...if your teachers are wondering why you aren't hired as an artist, they shouldn't be teachers in the first place, its pretty obvious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by figure2
    Magic Man,

    Your rant reminded me of a guy I knew back in middle school through high school. He was just about the opposite of the girl you had to fire. This guy back in 7th grade was already an accomplished artist. He created beautiful drawings for his friends in bands when they needed posters & announcements. I was also reminded of this guy when I saw the movie "Crumb." Like Robert Crumb, this guy came from a family of artists where it almost seemed like a genetic trait.

    As good as this guy was, he couldn't care less about his ability and after high school, while his friends & classmates went off to college, he went to work for a bike shop as a bike mechanic and never aspired to anything more. I have often felt that because his ability came to him so easily he put no value in it and lost interest. So if someone could indeed take a little "red pill" to give them all the ability they wanted, it would probably have the same effect.
    Sadly, there's no course on ambition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitch
    MAGICMAN,

    Honestly I was a little turned off by your rant; then I went and took a look at your sketchbook to see if you were entitled to speak from a position of authority.

    Suffice it to say, your work speaks much more highly of you than your rant

    I'm sorry you had to go through all that emotional turmoil with this misplaced soul. Their kind make their appearance everywhere, not just in the world of art.

    Quit kicking yourself about her though (or even her about herself). She isn't worth the trouble, at least not the way she is now. Hell, maybe in a few years your paths will cross again, and she'll be a better person or perhaps a better artist as a result of the business experience you were compelled to render unto her.

    If not, forget her. Spare her neither sweat nor adrenaline.

    And keep up the excellent work.
    I'm done thinking about her, just thought it would make a nice rant story. In all honesty, I am a pretty chilled out person in real life, I just hate seeing squandered opportunity since I am someone who always treats every opportunity with the utmost attention and care.

    Thanks for the kind words too, its a shame I can't post my real work, my sketchbook is just full of sketches...confidentiality agreements are like itches that you can't scratch.
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