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October 11th, 2005 #1
i just really need some comfort
I'm not around much because I'm entering the work world, or trying to at least, and I never seem to have any free time anymore. Basically, I was fired today out of the blue. And I'm just really sad. and frustrated. and exhausted mentally. I have been trying to get into the custom interior painting industry. Painting is what I love, am good at, and feel I could really make it out there once I have the chance. So I felt blessed when I searched on the internet for companies and a man with a small business was willing to take a chance on me and teach me the trade. I went on one job with him, unpaid, as my try-out and then was invited to do a week long project in a million dollar home(which actually isnt a huge job considering california real estate).
Well I started on monday and for the past two days did serious manual labor. I plastered walls, i sanded them wearing a face mask and goggles. I was inadvertently getting plaster dust in my nose, mouth and eyes. I was working on tall ladders. I was giving my all just for the opportunity to get to do some of the artistic painting later on. And as the day ended today, with dust covering my hair, face and arms, I was handed some cash and told "this just isnt going to work." I dont have what it takes apparently. well of course not for that! I'm not a laborer! I went to college. I got a degree in art. I just assumed as an "assistant," yes I would have to do some grunt work. I was prepared for that. And I didnt complain.
I just feel completely taken advantage of and deceived. Just when I though a good soul was finally going to give me a chance it turned out to be another hollow experience where I'm left with my mouth wide open (this time probably full of plaster) not understanding why I cant get a break. I know everyone has been there and I should just get over myself. but its so hard. I'm the most hard-working, dependable, trustworthy person I can be..and its still not good enough. Nothing is even good enough. And I'm constantly told I just dont have enough experience.
Well then, I guess I might as well prepare to be a bag lady, b/c if no one is willing to give me experience, I'm going to go my whole life without work!
Please someone just say it will be okay. I'm losing all hope here...
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October 11th, 2005 #3
That absolutely sucks.
Is this guy licensed? If he is, I believe there are (varying) state laws that might protect you from losing compensation for that much labor.
Well, good luck in finding something new. And don't ever take being fired as a measurement of your talent. Some bosses are just too dumb to know what they've got.
October 11th, 2005 #4
you think you've got problems? Stop whining - things will get better
In the meantime... maybe I can help you out
I know a couple of people who are involved in what you do...they're up here in LA. I can get in touch with them and if they say its ok - pass on their info to you -
maybe you can get some advice/leads or maybe even work/train with them.
I actually went to paint with them once...decorating people's houses is not my thing though.
Very nice people...no promises but worth a try...if you're interested, let me know
I have to say I would be very intimidated to do what these people do- you can replace a canvas - but not some expensive piece of furniture or a wall in a million dollar home.
Thats my good deed for the day
for payment - I will take your first born
Last edited by Rascar Capac; October 11th, 2005 at 09:47 PM.
October 11th, 2005 #5
Hes licensed its all legit, I even filled out a w-4 for him...ha, waste of time. I got paid in cash for my two days of work and was told he needed someone with more experience in production work(i.e. I need to be a mexican laborer, thats the competition for painting jobs and I was actually working along side one for this job). I emailed him saying how shocked and disappointed I was by this abrupt and cold dismissal, and he actually wrote back saying his field is very labor intensive and I just cant handle it. Which, hell, maybe its true. It sure isnt worth my health. That dust and chemicals can kill you.
im just so sick of this constant starting over process. I do temp work on the side(office work which makes me cringe) and am willing to do anything to get my foot in the door. So much for a degree being the ticket to sucess. I feel so alone and helpless.
October 11th, 2005 #6
Bluegoddess. He's an asshole, but he did the nicest thing he could for you. He fired you.
If he didn't like you, he would have fired you, and made you wait until the end of the week to pay you, or until the middle of the month, or the end of the month, just to make you suffer a bit for your money.
The fact that he handed you the money was his way of softening the blow as best he could. What is the kind part of this, is that he saw you WERE giving your all, and he knew he was NOT intending to hire someone like that. He wanted someone with enough of a strong back to be "Manuel Labor" and get to work clean up work for him in the painting part. When he saw you really, REALLY took this serious, he got scared. Real fast, because he knew you were NOT going to work long if you were the "hired help," unless you got a chance to show your stuff.
He was using you, and he actually felt bad enough about it to fire you AND pay you in cash for the two days...
Mind you, this also gets the sleazeball off the hook for taxes, as by paying you in cash, you are now responsible for reporting it, while he gets off with it as Office expenses...
Honey, I know it hurts SO bad right now, and yes, it WILL get better. Stick with the temp thing, pride swallowing as it may be, just because it helps pay the bills, and it is "clean" work. You don't get dirty, greasy, dusty, grimy from cleaning shelves, serving food, or any of a hundred thousand icky jobs as you chew your way into the right position...
In the meantime, please use this hurt and anger, and frustration to motivate you to push forward with your desire to be a custom interior painter. Keep trying to make contacts, and if you have any type of a portfolio, get it out there. I know you can do it, just as I know you will have to get screwed over a few times before you get there.
This guy could have taken a LOT worse advantage of you. At least he was decent enough to set you free to fly...
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October 11th, 2005 #7
What madster and mike said.
Take it in perspective. You gave it all you got and the fella - asshole or not - felt maybe your talents lie in another part of art. Don't feel down, take it as a "critique". You're just going out to work, so it'll take a while to fit into the groove...or to find your own. Its just a part of learning process.
Look on the bright side. At least you got paid.
There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine and THE TRUTH.
October 11th, 2005 #8
Can I borrow $20?
Keep your chin up! It'll be okay.
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This is going to sound wierd but you might wat to think about going and talking to a military recruiter if you keep hitting dead ends . A friend of mine wanted an art career as an illustrator but nobody would give him a chance so he was broke and had a ton of college debt. So he decided to join the Military . He went and talked to a recruiter who asked him what he wanted to do and the recruiter basically told him he could set it up so that he could do Illustration and other work for some Military magazines . Anyways he was in the military for 4 years and got all the expereince he needed and actually landed a very high paying job at a large magazine doing graphic design and illustration . In your case they probebly do have some kind of job that would allow you to get the experience you need . Also since you have a degree you would be going in the military as an officer and that means you would have a pretty large pay grade . It's something to think about . I would do it if I was younger and hitting dead ends . Either that or keep networking and talking to people . This guy sounds exactly like what you said . I mean he probebly wanted to look at a cute girl for a few days but he also wants someone he can push around without much complaint . Maybe go back to your college and talk to some of your professors maybe they know someone who might let you do an intership and get some experience part time ? The art world is a very hard dog eats dog world. Just keep posative don't let one jerk spoil your opptamism !
October 11th, 2005 #10
thanks you guys...i knew people with more experience out there would probably understand the situation more than i did. i suppose the way the situation was handled was probably in the nicest way possibly, im just getting so used to these repeated out-of-no where impressions that i basically suck with no explanation whatsoever. all i want is for people to be straight with me. I'm sick of being treated like i cant handle the truth.
mike-- thanks for checking out my work. all I can really say is ive never wanted to be a "professional artist" and just sell my work. I want to work for a company and use my artistic talent in a functional way. interior painting just seems to be such a great fit since painting is the main genre I engage in. i had gone on an interview for a painting position at a company that did a lot of faux work, pretty much right after I graduated and before I had even considered the idea. after that didnt work out(most likely due to my lack of experience in the work) I was so disappointed and realized it was something I was excited about getting into. After realizing this, as if being given a true sign of it being my path, I found a posting asking for someone who wanted to learn faux painting in exchange for helping her paint a room in her house. and i got $100 for that. i continued my relationship with her, and did a few more projects but she turned out to not be such a good teacher(i understand, im not good at teaching others art either). That wasnt really going anywhere so i took the initiative and just searched all over the internet for companies in SD. i was nervous but the first place I called was this guy's company. for whatever reason, he actually talked to me for a while and invited me over to his studio that day, and let me tag along on a job the following day.
i should have known the situation was too good to be true. i had thought i finally found someone willing to take me under their wing. but i guess he had no intention on sharing his tricks of the trade. some people just want to do it all on their own, i guess. maybe he was afraid I would challenge his abilities, i dunno. i never got the chance. ive thought about murals too, or set design. i just really want to do something hand-on. i just cant do it freelance, im too scared and oblivious to the cruelty of this world at this time, it appears. im just so emotionally damaged.
ive tried a lot of things. ive emailed random commercial artists inquiring for, if nothing else, advice on getting into the industry. nothing. ive contacted friends of friends to see if they can help. no response. ive even decided to try to network in my sorority(please, no judgment..i mainly saw it as a potential networking connection..) im just running out of ideas.
anyway, im feeling better about this current situation. the guy specializes in Venetian plastering, and it is pretty difficult work. i still cant get the taste of plaster out of my mouth. and yeah, im so lucky i got paid the proper amount.
btw, i have to report it?? ive done under the table jobs before and never had probs? but then again, taxes really confuse me...
madster: your words mean a lot. you seem to really know what you are talking about, and i believe everything you said. its like you just had an inner spiritual discussion with the guy and know his every thought. i believe hes a nice guy, just didnt know how to handle me very well(he deals with a lot of illegal and mexican workers, and maybe didnt like the idea that i was so educated...thats sounds sad but true, b/c i wasnt going to continue to get abused. in fact i inquired about whether he had workers comp and he doesnt...NOT GOOD TO HEAR WHEN YOU SPEND ALL DAY ON LADDERS AND INHALING PLASTER DUST.)
anyway, its in the past...i have to move on. no one said life is easy...but i was led to believe going to college would amount to something.
Rascar Capac: i appreciate your honestly. im going to pm you about your contacts, i appreciate it.
*deep breath* okay, i think im gonna make it. once again i feel the love of this community. thank you all.
Last edited by bluegoddess16; October 11th, 2005 at 11:26 PM.
October 11th, 2005 #11
you only have to report if your net gains are over a certain amount. I forget what that amount is however...
October 11th, 2005 #12
okay ill look into that...the last thing i need is the IRS on my case. hah.
October 12th, 2005 #13
Shit happens, good luck with finding a better job.