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    "I'm an Artist, But Not the Starving Kind"

    FANTASTIC article from Newsweek about being a professional artist, and the problems with most art education: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287027/site/newsweek/

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    Great article, and thanks for the link, Elwell!

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    That should be manditory reading. Good find.

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    Fantastic read...so insightful...

    Tristan, saw your painting btw ...

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    sweet read. is the nike part true?

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    Inspiring Stories. Is it possible to make a % deal with the company? Just curious, does those terms exist.
    Im Arif

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    That is a very good article.
    Maybe its just me, but I seriously feel like many institutions fail to teach students the importance of critical thinking, much less dedicate time to developing it in them. This is most evident in high school, or at least in my country, but I think its something many education institutions suffer world wide. Its pretty sad : (

    I think someone made a post before on this forum with this link:
    http://198.173.235.195/estimatetutorial.html

    but I can't find it so I'm just reposting it. Its a tutorial for determining estates, its aimed mostly at graphic designers, but its relevant nonetheless I think.

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    Definitely a good read for people out there who don't have any business knowledge at all, but I wonder how many will actually then take it further and get the required reading materials and plough through it, hmm.

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    Yeah, I took a business class at my school (geared towards the business of Fine Art) which was no-credit and only offered every other semester. I've heard the majority of art schools have no business class at all. Luckily, there are some good books out there. I'm meaning to pick up that Graphic Artists Guild Handbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKECORRIERO
    You can retain certain rights to your work, you can accept a contract where you would sell the work for first time usage rights or first time printing rights and still retain the ownership of all rights and copyright including the intellectual property of the design itself.
    You can also sell your work and retain a percentage of royalties for everytime it is used. So you would get 15% for example of the "childrens book" each month from the money the client is making off of your artwork. It's more in depth than this, and there are more rights and laws than can be explained in one thread..

    Just get the "Graphic Artist Guild Handbook; Pricing & Ethical Guidlines"

    It's up to you to know your rights and to realize your worth as an artist. You dont have to settle for low fees or accept any terms or sign a contract unless your happy with all of the details in it.
    Mike how country specific is it? is it only applicable in the US? I'm assuming it covers legislation.

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    I say fuck the corporations, let their business czars and ceos design their own art and see how good the public responds. Fuck letting those mF's pockets fill up because of my art while they kick down some petty chump change. I'll never sell out my art, I'm gonna do what I want and do it independent even if no one ever sees or buys it and I have to work for minimum wage at Kabuto's sushi house.
    Strange coincidence that every man whose skull has been opened had a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IILooney
    I say fuck the corporations, let their business czars and ceos design their own art and see how good the public responds. Fuck letting those mF's pockets fill up because of my art while they kick down some petty chump change. I'll never sell out my art, I'm gonna do what I want and do it independent even if no one ever sees or buys it and I have to work for minimum wage at Kabuto's sushi house.
    ...thats nice dear, you do that.

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    I'm glad to have your blessing.
    Strange coincidence that every man whose skull has been opened had a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IILooney
    I'm glad to have your blessing.
    No problems...I love you.

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    Great article, bookmarked.
    $35 is crazy, my brother does small forum theme jobs for $100, and it only takes minimal amount of work... But yeah, it sucks that this happens.

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    hmm.. do i sense some romance in the air? or should i cancel the mood music and bottle of bubbley?

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    They should put a Sticky on this. It's SO true. I graduated almost 2 years ago, and my first freelance job was a nightmare. I did it for a friend, charged $20/hour and did it in about 10 hours. After I sent it to the printer, they called and I didn't know how to get things "print-ready." Just another thing I am now realizing that I wasn't taught (that and about 95% off computer programs). I spent another 10 hours on the phone with the printer taking a class on how to get things "print-ready." Thank God he was understanding and patient with me. Once again, thanks for posting!!!

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    5 stars thread. I was wondering what kind of class to take at the local universities. Now I know. Hopefully they have this kind of course since I a) need it and b) need it lots.
    Thanks Elwell, bRØk3n_sPiRiT.

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