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    Quick life study at work today in PS. Although i'm enjoying pencil work I like to splash about a bit just to "keep my hand in" so to speak. The anatomy is way off, but it looks kinda pretty.


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    Nice stuff Erilaz! Nice hand studies, and I like the gesture studies. I should do that stuff more often. I agree that it's nice to mess around in PS a little every now and then. Keep drawing!
    P.S- Sorry if this post seems a little rambling, I'm studying for mid-terms. Ugh...

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    First 2 pages from the 10th are great, very loose & natural, in fact most of your drawings are pretty loose, maybe except for the tramsketches !
    On the ones below those 2, keep an eye out for the shoulders: most don't slant down enough toward the outside of the figure.

    And on the profil of a face, features (nose, lips, chin, brow, ...) don't lie on a straight line, but go in and out in relation to that line, remember, variation/irregularity makes things interesting (although it must be balanced with the opposite).
    Give people also some more back to their head !!

    Keep it up !

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    Cup of Joe: Thanks! I'm trying to as much as possible!
    NightVision: Thanks very much for the tips! I really appreciate it. I must study these things vigourously!

    Here's some for today:




    For the bottom one I used a charcoal study as a reference: http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2...p/results1.asp

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    I've just picked up The Artist's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing by Anthony Ryder. Very useful read! Hopefully it will aid my struggle.

    Just some quicks today. I disappoint.




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    A few master studies today. Raphael and Mucha. I'm learning more patience, but still need to work on observance!




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    Ink studies of Dürer and Rembrandt. Pointy.


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    good to see u constantly pushing it dude.. it's good that you are going hard, but once in a while it's also a good idea to spendfew hours in one piece and see if u can apply those. the chick with her back showing looks good, a little lost in values, tty to suss out the planes like you did on those faces. well, keep going!! cheers dude!!

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    bumskee: Thanks for the support! You're right, I need to concetrate more. I'm trying to work on patience as well as technique! Thanks for tip on the planes. I'll invetigate thoroughly.




    Bad lighting studies. Dang.


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    Nice Martin, keep on doing those studies! try to work those light studies bigger and be more precise.

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    Hey, man! Thanks for the reply in my SB!

    I like your masterstudies.. especially those done in pen.

    I'd try to put a little more time into 'em though. Seems like you're rushing your lines.. hehe... I struggle with that myself..

    Keep 'em coming!

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    Hello there. Now I am here as promised. Still donīt have time to run through the others who have dropped by at my SB but I will start from you!!!

    First of all, crazy3dman said the most important thing that came to my mind. You seem to NOT think about the forms and planes. At least not enough. There is a certain flatness present in your lifedrawings, this is mainly because of that problem. I guess you understand that face is round, eyes are eyeBALLS and so on but I know that is hard to put your knowledge in action. I was really positively surprised at the end of page one with those hand and foot studies! (post #54) And the fact that you stated it out yourself that you are learning to see things! It is a big and recognisable problem when someone is drawing from their expectations, you do need to learn how to LOOK before you are able to learn how to draw or paint. I am not saying I can master that but I have understood it already and once you do, you are so much further. It is a passive "YOU" in that earlier sentence, not meaning you YOU.

    One thing you could try to pry your "minds eye" open... Not focus on the outline. Many times there is problems with the outline of character and therefor it makes the result uncertain. Try to do drawings so that you only draw the shadows. You donīt care how the outline of the figure forms on the lightside, you just do the shadows. An artist of the dark side... This way you start to see things differently, you may start to understand the volume of your subject. Once you see where the shadows are cast and why different parts are shaded, you will start to understand your subject more 3D. Outline has no shadow or volume, it is merely the border of the subject and the rest and therefor not actually a really relevant thing to picture. Of course once you master this mass and volume thinking, you can apply your knowledge into linework also. But try this a bit first. There was some of this action going on in the Baggio Bandivelli -study on page 1... But more more more more more.

    The lady on the first page is cool but there is the problem that it is a 2D pic you have used as reference, all the problems are already solved in that. Drawing from life is where everyone has to learn their first steps.

    I donīt know what else to say now. Looking mighty fine, just keep it up fella!!! I will return.

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    Hey Erilaz, Great to see you going strong here. Hiipi had some great comments there. I think I'm going to take some of his advice too.

    I'd love to see you go back and take another shot at those lighting studies and spend more time on them.

    I found a cool set of DVD's from Gnomon that I'm waiting to see if I get from my wife for my birthday Take a look here -
    http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/sro07.html

    Even the short sample clips they have are informative to watch.

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    Hi there

    your doing good! Please keep going
    I like the figure drawing, all the different poses tried out.. That's a thing I still have to begin with.
    Some of your faces are a little off though, try to remember the eyes are in the middle of the head, I see them being too high in some of your head sketches.
    sorry got to go now,

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    Okay, it's been a crazy month. I've just moved house and it's been a nightmare. The only quality time i've had with my sketchbook is during work meetings and trams rides. Although this has improved my ability to do quick sketches, it also means I haven't had time to do ANY focused light or figure studies, which I really need to improve on. I hope to remedy that over the next few months, as i'm desperately trying to figure out if I can afford to go to the Montreal workshop.

    m@: Thanks, it's always good to hear from you! I'll try and get some more serious investigations done into light this month.
    dCepT: Yes, you're right about time. One thing i've been forced to do is actually THINK before I place a line, so a forehead doesn't have a crazy angle, or shading doesn't look like a mess of hatching. Getting better... slowly!
    Hiipi: Thanks SO much! This sort of stuff is exactly what I need to hear! I'll try to look into the shadow sketching technique as thoroughly as possible. And thanks for the comment on the foot studies... I was very proud of that effort, even though i'm still a long way off.
    crazy3dman: Hey! I'm buying those one too when I get the chance! They look awesome. We're thinking of getting them for work.
    NoŽ: I suffer from the high forehead thing quite a lot. I'm slowly learning to remedy it, but I quite often start drawing a head from the eyes, so I need to adjust my proportions more. work inward so to speak!

    And... breathe.

    Now here's the mess of work i've acheived since last time. Fairly poor in my opinion. You can really tell the difference when you're not practicing as often as you're used to! That will be remedied in due time.







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    Just a couple of quick ones... i'm hoping that i'll get time to sit down and really get into some proper studies this week. So tired...




    Self portrait... need to work on my light and planes, I know! Working at it!


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    You know the drill:



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    Some WIP on this weeks COW entry:

    The actual res is twice this, so i'm probably going to have to shrink the width down.

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    Working on facial planes, since I suck at them.


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    Hey martin, good to see you pushing it, I think you were a little careless with the placement of features. Also as for proportions, if you look at loomis heads, the hair line, eye brows, tip of the nose and the chin all split the face in same proportion. Remember that the space between the eyes are one eye space and that is around the same width of the nose. and so on. I guess you know these already but just not applying as much as you would like to. hmm there's this http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/index.html it's japanese but there's lot of great resources. check it out if u get a moment.

    I think it's important to be patient. keep scribbling!! cheers

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    Thanks for keeping an eye out Bumskee! I've really got to start pushing it now that ii'm sign up for Montreal! i'll try to study more proportions better. I'm starting life-drawing next week, so i'll have some good long pose sessions!



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    Hey martin, good to hear you are going for life drawing soon! that will be exciting. awsome, hopefully I will join you soon.

    I think one of the thing you can improve is strokes. It seems as if you are flicking them, a good practice, if you care is just doing some nice 0~10 values in pencil. Not that many probably around 6~7 and just try and fill out a box and let the strokes work more closely with the overall value. and when you render your drawings simply pick out 3~4 values, think in terms of planes and apply them.

    look forward to seeing more! cheers

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    My shading and lighting... just another area I need to improve tenfold! Thanks Min. Keep on sniping those problem areas!
    This is messy... i'm definately not paying attention to the quality of my strokes here. Yikes!


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    Hey sir,

    I really like the two figures from earlier today. I think there is more control in the lines. That's great to hear about the life drawing. I just started going to a weekly life drawing session a couple weeks ago. How about if we try to keep each other going?

    I also wanted to point you towards killing.people's sketchbook thread -
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34479

    some amazing drawings. And if you scroll down towards the bottom of the first page, he's got some good thoughts on pencil drawing/hatching.

    Hope you have a great time in Montreal. I'm jealous. I won't be able to go this time. It would have been good to meet you. Next time hopefully.

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    Thanks crazy3dman. always a pleasure to see you!
    How about if we try to keep each other going?
    You're on, do you wanna starta SSG?

    Here's a couple of ones I did while at work today (excuse the text, it was on a task list!).


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    Hey man,

    You're walking the right path, figure studies and life drawings are most important, you'll get a better grip of reality and you're lines will come out cleaner. Bring your sketchbook along to all kinds of places; resturaunts, cafés, parks, etc.. It's very good practise, and it's fun!

    Keep at it,
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    Tigermilk: Yup, I've been doing the "everywhere" book for about a 8 months now. It's helped a lot. (That's the yellow pages in my sketchbook here). Thanks for dropping by and for the support!


    Little 15 minute Zbrush sketch... i'll have some more pencil pages tonight.


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    Hey Sir,

    I'd love to do an SSG. How do we do it? Just let me know what I need to do.

    Do you use Zbrush much? I just downloaded the demo. Hope to have some time to play with it.

    Hey I just noticed my name at the bottom of your sig. Cool. Thanks

    Keep drawing!

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    I think we just sign up with the SSG. I added your name down the bottom so I could pop in more regularly!
    I've been using Zbrush for a little while now, but work and such has given me little time to delve into it.

    Here's some more tram/meeting grabs:



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    And a more focused page:


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