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September 10th, 2005 #1
Element of Surprise
These are a few concept roughs for the next CGTalk Challenge. The initial concept is to have a couple of over confident divers getting owned by a giant octopus. Right now Im just working out ideas for a layout. The divers will be next on my list.
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nice lighting!...waiting for updates
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September 10th, 2005 #3
September 11th, 2005 #4
More layout ideas.
I took another artist's suggestion on having a diver looking up toward the Octopus and I like the way it came out. Im a sucker for images with that suspended moment of terror just before the shits about to hit the fan where the victim is completely unaware. I think in this case, the suggestion is cool because the diver doesnt necessarily look like he knows whats going on, he just senses something and looks up.
Im still debating what reef layout to use and what position the other diver(s) will be in. Im leaning more towards this reef than the last. I think it emphasizes the idea of vast depth better than the other one and helps define the size of the octopus a bit more. I'll probably knock out a few more before I decide on a final layout.
September 11th, 2005 #5
I think I like the bottom one best. I also really like your name.
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nice so far....love the colors and the compositions and deffinitly the concept..........one crit tho....on the last one carful of the mans right arm....its a little unproportional.....but hella well done
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September 12th, 2005 #9
neat idea and really great seeing adapt and look at new perspectives. on the last one, who is the main subject matter? the octopus, diver background or diver forground? it looks like there is a lot of competetion going on there.
the forground diver is maybe taking away the 'spectacular' event happening behind him.
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September 13th, 2005 #10Originally Posted by jabberwookie
These are just rough sketches. Im just traying to warm up before I start getting serious about deciding on a final piece.
Speaking of rough sketches. heres another one I put together:
This was actually my first concept for the challenge but I axed it cause I thought it was a bit cheese. I did laugh outload a few times as I was putting it together though... its supposed to be a couple of divers swimming around what appears to be a reef, when in fact its a giant fish staring at them.
September 14th, 2005 #11
A little refinement on the octopus.
I think Im going to stick with this layout for the moment. I took Andreas Rocha's suggestion from CGTalk to have the tentacles flow off the frame and I got to admit, I think it works well. I may play around a little more with the positioning of each tentacle but I feel Andreas was right as it now feels that the octopus is a bit larger and it fills out the frame better.
September 18th, 2005 #12
Ok, I think Im pretty close to settling on a final layout.
I took some more suggestions and now have one of the divers looking at the octopus. I like the way the diver in the foreground is looking and I think the layout flows nicely. I may nudge the angle on him a little more but I think Im going to keep him more or less in this position.
A few things more I will be doing are adjusting the reef a bit and redrawing the octopus. I should have a final layout within the week and I'll start refining my color studies.
September 18th, 2005 #13
That pose really gives me the feel of a moment in time, of a sudden reaction to seeing what he's seeing, the fingers are very expressive.
I was looking at yours over at cgsociety and I don't know how I missed this here, great stuff.
That one with the huge eyeball took me a few seconds to realize what I was looking at, then... it gave me big shivers.
This last one give me that feel of a spectacular moment captured in time, the moment the diver realizes.
Nudging the angle might help some. The one weird part of the comp seems to be where the tentacle touches his head, but you've done some to alleviate that with the bubbles.
I wish you the best of luck in the contest, this is coming along great.
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September 18th, 2005 #14
Dang, this is a cool piece of work,
For one thing it shows that you don't have to have a ton of brilliant color hit you between the eyes to make a picture interesting. The use of light here is really good and your composition is well thought of. The pieces have a lot of drama and I love underwater scenes.
Good work MHC, Bruce
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September 19th, 2005 #15
Marie - Thank you very much for your comments I really appreciate the time people take to make suggestions. Believe it or not, I take most everything people suggest into consideration when making an image. I may not use everything, but in this case, I would say nearly 80% of this image is what other artists have suggested. The position of the diver was definitely an excellent suggestion and like you stated, its a definite improvement.
Bruce - Thank you also for your comments I know what you mean about color because Im actually a color This is one of the few pieces Ive worked on where I was worried that it may not have enough color in the image. Ive received good compliments regarding my color choices so its definitely allowed me to have some relief in that department knowing that Im probably moving in the right direction. Again, thank you
September 19th, 2005 #16
I sketched a couple of different animals for the scene last night. I think they look a little too typical and kinda boring. Im a little sick of the octopus although I fear thats probably the animal Im going to stick with. These were done for fun and will not be used in the final image.
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Hi Mecha Hate Chimp,
nice shocking work. I prefer those without sharks. Not because of the way you did draw them (that's creepy enough for me), but because I avoid to think of certain creatures while surfing. Nice color balance. The surface is not to detailed but shows off anyhow. Photoshop or Painter ?
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September 19th, 2005 #18
I think the last shark pose looks too much like Bruce from "Finding Nemo".
Speaking from a plausible biological point-of-view, the sharks are the only creatures you've drawn that are truly a threat... though an octopus that big would certainly be surprising! I think there's a lot of reality in the more "passive" shark pose (sharks are normally pretty cautious and often do circle/pass a few times before biting).
If you want to stick with "real" ocean dangers, you might also look into killer whales, a pack of Humboldt squid, or maybe a giant squid.
September 20th, 2005 #19
I tend to like the octopus better as far as composition go. Of course the shark seems to give a more immediate "jump" when looking at it.
Perhaps there is a way to give a better sense of the size of the octopus, in order to make it more shocking or spectacular?
I don't know how a boat on the water's surface would translate here, or if it would ruin the composition, or something that would help the viewer estimate that the octopus was HUGE. Was pondering what could be done with the octopus to make it seem larger and scarier. (like head on shark seems).
I'm loving all the progress shots, you have some great ideas.
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September 20th, 2005 #20
I got a new wacom tablet today (Intuos 3) and had to test the bad boy out.
Speaking of bad boys, the idea came to me that Ive just been dicking around with namby pamby creatures of the deep.... when I should really be drawing something that strikes fear into the hearts of men...
... Bob's Big Boy Aqua Sessions in full effect. Be afraid!
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September 21st, 2005 #22
really cool. it's great. the divers pose is perfect.
i like the octopus. for me the manta is not very frightening and the shark is a very stereotype animal. keep the octopus its cool and subtly scary.
great colors and composition. i can't wait to see the finished version.
September 22nd, 2005 #23
September 27th, 2005 #24
Well, since Big Boy gets no love around here, I decided to stick to my original plan and use the octopus instead...
Im experimenting with the lighting a bit and starting to tighten up my image. I like the darker setting although its hard to pull off detail when the image is this dark...then again, those silhouettes do let me get away with alot.
I'll start adding some small details to the reef next and cleaning up the octopus a bit. I was thinking of having the background diver holding some kind of light that would be pointing up at the octopus to maybe bring it out a bit. This would also help bring out the diver as well, since he already looks like he's being lit up from the front.
Im on the fence with the foreground diver. I might make him larger and closer to the viewer. I have a few more sketches I want to play around before I decide on a final layout.
September 28th, 2005 #25
You know what,
these two are my favourite(good job finding the pose with the 2nd diver getting scared from below looking up, that works really well).
I actually really like it with just the empty sea filling up the bottom half of the image. If you spent some time cleaning this up and rendering it out some,
it would be really cool.
But empty or not they both look good
September 28th, 2005 #26
While I like the concept and how you handled the many different waves of ideas I can't help but think that a real octopus would always surprise from below, from the deep, or out of a cavern for example. They just aren't surface hunters really, they are bottom dwellers(due to frailness, camouflage, preferred prey)