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    The Rome Tome

    First post here. Hello! Finally getting back into regular sketching after a long hiatus, about 14 years.

    The Rome Tome The Rome Tome

    The Rome Tome The Rome Tome

    Battling the proportions a little in these, I also mostly avoided the head, wanted to concentrate on form. I washed the paper ahead of time with acrylic paint (14 yrs ago!), then I used black and white charcoal pencils. I like to work from a medium tone, can push in and out quickly so it's kind of like sculpting.

    These come from a great life drawing session at blankslatejoe's place last Friday. Thanks again Joe. Good meeting the guys too: Tarwater, Brian, & Britt.

    Jax, you were absolutely a great model, good poses and good company. Nothing like trash-talking frog AI, eh? Looking forward to the next meet.

    Going to start scanning the choice bits from the rest of this book too, it's a thick one. More about that later.

    Comments/crits/beefs welcome.
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    welcome to conceptart eric!
    it was awesome meeting you and those sketches are downright beautiful. 14 years? Dang, that's a long haitus.

    Jax actually posts on here sometimes, she's got a sketchbook on here somewhere

    looking forward to the next drawing meetup!

    heh, frog ai.
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    now those are just lovely! esp the 4th one from the right!!
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    Hey, thanks folks, nice words.

    That last one really bugs me though, the legs seem a different scale than the torso, like I need to scale the torso down a bit. But yeah, I guess they came out ok.

    Hasn't really been 14 yrs, I do do some concepting at work (game software development), but I haven't been sketching regularly at all, for way too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricChadwick
    Hey, thanks folks, nice words.

    That last one really bugs me though, the legs seem a different scale than the torso, like I need to scale the torso down a bit. But yeah, I guess they came out ok.

    Hasn't really been 14 yrs, I do do some concepting at work (game software development), but I haven't been sketching regularly at all, for way too long.
    yeah the scale of the torso is a bit off but the legs are beautiful.
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    hey,

    When is it best to use a majority of white chalk when working on toned surfaces? Like the 3rd and 4th drawings in your sketchbook. How would you also develop the mid-tones? Do you also use the white chalk for that? My questions are refferring only to the case where you just use most of the white chalk.

    Thanks man.

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    I'm no expert, so take my advice with a large grain of salt!

    I do try to leave the paper blank in the midtone areas, let the color show through. I start with dark tones, then bring in the whites for highlights or broad washes of light. If I over-darkended or over-lightened an area, I pull the paper color back in with a kneadable eraser (love those things!).

    I try to avoid mixing the white and black together as it makes a muddy cold gray color I don't like. You can see that happening in the face and shoulders of the lying-down pose. Yuck.

    Also, I use a white charcoal pencil, it lets me sharpen the point. I've tried Prismacolor for the white, but that's oil- or wax-based so it doesn't play fair, it won't erase like charcoal will.

    Here's a piece from 1991 when I was fresh out of school. Same media. Spent about 4 hours on this one...
    The Rome Tome

    Again, damn proportions... the length of that left bicep bugs me to this day. Overall I like the piece though, fun crosshatching.

    Does that answer your question? Thanks again for the feedback.
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    But what about that 4th drawing with the nice legs? Are there mid tones there? or is all that white that represents the light?
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    Do you mean the seated/reclining pose that's on purple? The legs are only defined by a black outline and some white on the tops. Yes, only the white defines the light. Midtones are nearly empty.

    The middle areas running down the length of the legs... those are purely the color of the paper showing through. Her right leg has a subtle bit of dark charcoal to define the inner area, while the her left leg uses a little soft white charcoal in the middle of the thigh. Other than that, it's just blank. Especially her left calf... really not much there.

    I took a look at your sketches, good stuff! The 4th one down in your first post, the really dark guy's back... looks like you smudged the paper with a soft layer of charcoal, then drew the darks in, then erased to get the highlights. I like that one a lot. Same technique as mine really, except I used paint for my bkg color. I think I can see your charcoal "wash" showing through in those midtones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricChadwick
    Do you mean the seated/reclining pose that's on purple? The legs are only defined by a black outline and some white on the tops. Yes, only the white defines the light. Midtones are nearly empty.

    The middle areas running down the length of the legs... those are purely the color of the paper showing through. Her right leg has a subtle bit of dark charcoal to define the inner area, while the her left leg uses a little soft white charcoal in the middle of the thigh. Other than that, it's just blank. Especially her left calf... really not much there.

    I took a look at your sketches, good stuff! The 4th one down in your first post, the really dark guy's back... looks like you smudged the paper with a soft layer of charcoal, then drew the darks in, then erased to get the highlights. I like that one a lot. Same technique as mine really, except I used paint for my bkg color. I think I can see your charcoal "wash" showing through in those midtones.

    AHh I see...so in that drawing, there wasnt much of "darkest darks" as opposed to the "lightest light" ?

    I hope you dont mind. hehe thanks BTW
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    Don't mind at all. Yeah, for her legs I defined the outlines with black, but did the shading (lighting) mostly with white. On the other hand with her torso I tried to add in some black along the shadow terminus to make that stand out from the backlighting along her side. Didn't work out so well, ran out of time, only 20-30 minute poses, I think.
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