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I put a quick animation together of the Sargent copy process.
Great master copies everyone. There's one piece of advice I'd give though that I think everyone could utilize in this thread.
When doing a master copy, try to capture everything about the original, the technique, the exact form, value, edges, EVERYTHING. You want yours to be indistinguishable from the original.
The true value in doing a master copy comes from the intense study of trying to do exact replication, no matter how painful, as the nuances really begin to pop at you and you begin to understand a bit what the artist was doing and how he did it. Additionally, it will really hone your hands and your eyes. Don't be ashamed also if you takes you a long time to finish a master copy. It's meant to be an exercise moreso than a work all your own. Although the pride you gain from doing a great copy and the knowledge you gained from it is definitely all your own.
study rather than a copy....with some added little twists of my own:
RUBENS, Pieter Pauwel
Painted in Corel Painter IX:
hello, great work everybody! here are my contributions to the cause, first one is hals, second one is copley, third one velazquez and last one is durer
Here is another Sargent copy.
Here is mine
Here is a closeup
Here is the original
Michelangelo. The Creation of Adam ( excerpt ) WIP Very early, Oil on Canvas.
About 2 hours at this stage.
Not exactly a straight copy as I've chosen the limited colour pallet to suit the paintings final location ( my mothers kitchen ) Blasphemy I know. Lets just say its pre restoration colours
Last edited by BurntUmber; March 13th, 2007 at 12:39 PM.
leyendecker studies from a while ago.
4 values, round brush.
There is no way to do a meaningful "copy" without it being a "study." The pieces that work show thought about major masses and reflect awareness of why the artist made his/her choices.
Studying from the masters can serve many purposes. Quick studies can be done to think about composition. We seem to learn better by moving our hand than by just looking. You can choose one artist at a time and do a daily composition study eithe in color or black and white, just looking for the movement of tone and/or color, the gesture through the page or canvas. After awhile one feels a more intimate knowledge of the artist and his way of organizing the page. Early on i also did two copies of Degas pastels - in oil. It forced me, among other things, to use my brush differently. It also helped to feel how he pulled colors through his page. I know it had a positive impact on my own painting. I'm tech challenged ( and older than most of you) but hope eventually to figure out how to post work.
PS Sketch Monkey, what a beautiful and sensitive copy!
I feel a bit shamed posting mine in here, but do it I shall. A Bougueraeu and then Michelangelo -
This is a FANTASTIC study.. Brava!!!
Why ashamed Shantih? I like these drawings, especially the Michelangelo. You got some great lines (gotta love his arm), wish I had such control of linework! Keep it up
Woke up this morning, found out my signature was gone..
I was going to post up some of sargents but there are already so many. So here's one from Durer or Sheppard.
Last edited by cubesoflard; April 12th, 2007 at 07:53 PM.
Seems like this is a good thread to ask this question: does anybody know of a good website that has a huge collegtions of master paintings? The one i'm using right now is the abcgallery.com. Its kind of limited and the pics are low quality.
cubesoflard - Hey, these sites have a huge database, check it out:
Woke up this morning, found out my signature was gone..
Hey thanks Coen, this should be very helpful.
Take a look at the Rijksmuseum website as well, they have an extensive catalogue with hi-res images of pieces by the old masters.Originally Posted by cubesoflard
Here's a master copy I did of a self-portrait by Rembrandt in which he pictured himself as the apostle St Paul.
Done in photoshop with the purpose to study the master's way of lighting and the many different variations in color he used in this particular masterpiece.
Copy of Michelangelo's lost painting of Leda and the swan. Done in charcoal, hard&soft pastels. I'm planning to redo it in oils.
Havent posted in a long time, so I thought Id get the ball rolling again.
Michelangelos Study for Haman. Mine is too compressed, thatll teach me to measure!
18x24, red and black chalk.
And here is the orig.
Another one from me.
Thsi is after Pierre Paul Prud'hon
Mine is 18x24, blue strathmore with white chalk and Conte pencil, his is 11x17
Again, Im having trouble finding my way with the back muscles. I have my Simblet anatomy book next to me, and my Hogarth aswell, but still, I get lost very easily. Ill just keep going! I aslo feel very clumsy whith the mediums, and I am lacking the subtelties (sp) and value ranges. Lets hope the next one is better.
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Original Hendrick Goltzius, red chalk on 15 x 8, Im on 18x24
Last edited by timpaatkins; May 8th, 2007 at 07:35 AM.
Here's a John Williams Godward study I've been working on a for the last couple of days. I've got no idea how long it took; probably 6-9 hours. Godward does lovely portraiture, and I had a lot of fun trying to decipher how he managed to make the blush of the face blend in with the paleness of her neck.
I didn't paint the marble, as you can tell; what little texture is there is just an overlay layer I slapped on because I had to stop working on this so I could do my REAL homework.
Some Sargent copies that I made at the Metropolitan museum
Thomas John Carlson
here's some copies I did of master sketches:
diebenkorn's Coffee mastercopy. ( i used 100% palette knife for my copy though) only about 4 hours across two sessions.
mine, oil on canvas
Diebenkorn (bad image, his is far superior ._.)
[color is way off on the photos, they're closer in person]