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August 17th, 2005 #1
Master Copy Workshop
Learning from the masters is a sure way to learn. Here you can post your copies and analysis of masterworks. They can be paintings ,drawings from originals.. We want to see a good copy not just a day's work , maybe three or more days,weeks,months,etc...that means analysing and studying it with a purpose..maybe you wanna learn the masters palette in painting..his brushwork..his sculptural way of rendering..matching his lines, his inkwork,watercolor, his use of composition..of the figures..the way of handling drapery, or portraying character...or you just plainly love the drawing/painting . From Manet to Monet...frazetta or Rockwell anyone is welcome..If you wanna show the original next to your copy and the steps you took..it would be most helpful for critiques and opinions..
John Singer Sargent said that he learned from El Greco more than from any other artist, and it is said that El Greco was a pupil of Titian. Oh El Greco means the Greek in spanish
I need a better way to get the image that I use for copying printed with the original colors of the painting....has anyone tried taking it to KINKO'S??
Images were dead-inserted a Sargent copy of Velasquez's Aesop
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August 18th, 2005 #2
Me and Allejo are starting to work on ours right now, so I hope that others are willing to join.
Just to give you some ideas:
This is a recent Raphael copy. I spent over a week working on this one.
I suggest spending some considerable time on yours, so you can get the most out of the learning experience.
Goodluck and have fun!
August 19th, 2005 #3
Sargent did learn from El Greco, and he was a major influence on him. But the biggest influence on him was from Velazquez early in his career.Then he found Frans Hals, whom he studied and referenced for the rest of his life. You can even see similar color choices and brush work between Frans Hals and Sargent. He always recommended these two artists first and foremost when advising someone to learn from the old masters. He would say you should study Frans Hsls then go onto to Velazquez....blah blah blah. Also research His mentor, Carolus-Duran there are many similarities between them also. Nice copy by the way.
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August 19th, 2005 #4
vooodochile: thanks..i tried to really slow down..when painting..is a different feel when copying him..I tried my hand at Sargent a few times..one in oil hard as hell...
yeah i know that story.....I know of Hals and velasquez..and of carolous duran..this information i found on the ARC site..under El Greco Biography:
El Greco's work is typically modern, and from it the portrait painter, J. S. Sargent, claims to have learnt more than from that of any other artist. It immortalizes the character of the people amongst whom he dwelt, and he may be considered as the initiator of truth and realism in art, a precursor and inspirer of Velázquez
This statement really sounds interesting..because El greco captures the character in his own personal way.....and his enlongated figures seem to be very similar with Sargeants elegant ones..I know Sargents brushstrokes are like hals..but his figures are different and Hals is considered more impersonal, like his ability to draw is what matters to him more.....Velasquez is seeker of the truth in seeing..he is a tonal painter not as colorful as Sargent...
the thing that i like about them is that they work with expressive brushtrokes...but anyways..i dont care I found Delacroix now and he is my favorite at the moment..hehe..so on to study him!
Patzon: excellent copy..im working on a RAphael..im taking my time...one critique..if im not mistakeng you are a lefty right..well i bet i was hard going with the strokes of Raphael..I think next time you should go the way you naturally shade (to the left)....I have the same problem..when i tried copying leonardo..so i switch to my strokes..following his sample...I think rembrandt's is a lefty ..I tried my hand at his etchings..but he is a lot harder..his strokes are everywhere..
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August 20th, 2005 #5
here is mine..i like the drawing..my puto (child) turned out a bit beefer than raphae'sl...i did this in two sessions one hour..each..before i started i did check for anatomy, gesture, weight, and conceptual form, lightning in separate components....so i could think of all of those when i was drawing it ..is hard..since as the drawing progress i started seing more..raphael..is so delicate..critique please
August 21st, 2005 #6
I've never seen this Raphael before. The copy looks good, but can you post the original as well, so I can give a crit?
I'm having difficulty gettting a good photo of mine . well, I'll post it soon.
August 21st, 2005 #7
Here is a progress shot of my copy of a wonderful drawing by Tadeo Zucarro - an artist I'm not familiar of. To the right is the original. Sorry for the sucky photo.
August 21st, 2005 #8
my copy of a Rembrandt painting of Alexander the Great.
just in pencil though. love studying the old masters.
Hey dog. . . . did you see the size of that chicken?!
August 21st, 2005 #9
Thanks for joining in Prehistoric! Feel free to post more!
August 21st, 2005 #10
stickied. great thread. more discussion, MORE!! impart your valuable knowledge of the masters! ill join in with a mastercopy soon.
August 21st, 2005 #11Originally Posted by Form
Me and Allejo are very flattered!
August 21st, 2005 #12
How I spent my Saturday. Around 6 hours for all three. From the book "Sixteenth-Century Tuscan Drawings From the Uffizi".
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August 21st, 2005 #13
sorry for the bad pic and i'm not done yet too. I have to take care of some more reds and the clothes next. c+c please.