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    Question Greek/Roman Armor?

    Does anybody know of any books or sites that have some decent information and pictures of Greek or Roman armor. I just spent the last 5 1/2 hours doing google searches and came up with alot of bs. The only decent pics i found were of the movie Troy.
    The 2 best movies that have the best armor references that i can find are: Troy and Gladiator.
    I'm trying to do a study on greek armor and I'm coming up no good references. The best thing I found bookwise is this book:
    Greek/Roman Armor?

    Here's the Roman picture thats in the book:
    Greek/Roman Armor?

    No greek armor pics are included.
    Please if anybody can tell me about any books or sites with good references I'd really appreciate it.

    Thanks in advance,
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    http://www.varmouries.com/vcat_01.html

    http://www.niximperial.com/

    Hope these help, I think they're pretty good references.

    30 seconds of Google work... what keywords were you using?

    Go to the library and have a browse through the classical history sections, you never know what you might find. And it certainly won't take over 5 hours to find some useful reference in a library

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    Thx Mop, I checked my library earlier this week but unfortunatly i live in a small town and alas the library is small too.

    I also have some Greek Armor pictures i took at the ROM (Royal Ontario Mueseum) anybody know if it's alright to post these? Also i have about 100 medivel armor pictures I took too, if anybody needs some resources just holler.

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    Mop, those are great links, thanks
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    I finally found a good site. Here it is:

    http://history.smsu.edu/jchuchiak/HS...and%20Army.htm


    I'm still looking

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    Wo0t!

    I went on amazon.com and searched arms and armor heres what i came up with:

    http://arms2armor.com/Books/armsarmo.htm

    its got some good books that i intend to buy as soon as i get my next paycheck

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    Axis, instead of searching for armor, try GREEK ARMY and ROMAN ARMY, or ANCIENT GREEK/ROMAN ARMY instead for the google search. This sounds like an historical approach might be wider than just going after the armor specifically.

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    Look at these publishing company, they should provide you with every information you need for basic roman and greek stuff. They´ve got some very good historic illustrators working there, too.

    Osprey Publishing

    Furthermore this guys are doing a fine job reenacting greek hoplites

    Hoplite society

    Hope this could help you a bit, I´ve got some more books at home - normally you shouldn´t have much trouble finding links and stuff. Google for "Roman reenactment". There should be some societies online and they quite ofthen have lists of books on their sites.

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    Thumbs up Good posts

    Thanks Ilaekae, I'll search those asap.

    Thank you Fipse, Those 2 sites were very interesting, not quite what i was looking for but interesting nonetheless.

    Hey Fipse I have a crap load of medivel armor pictures that I took at the ROM, about 100, if your interested i could post them. I'm a big armor fan myself. Maybe I should post them in the Resources forum?

    Anyways I got alot to do today (i.e. bodywork on my F-150) so i won't be searching to much, until later tonight, so comon peeps lets find more sites for this thread

    later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fipse
    Osprey is THE source for military history info. The books illustrated by Angus McBride are especially good.

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    Hi Elwell,

    Angus McBride is good illustrationwise (except of the Scandinavian and hussite armies books, that I was quite disappointed with - he seems to be slacking lately) but he´s unfortunately not one of the most accurate illustrators if you want to get good detailed reconstruction. E.g. Christa Hook or Gerry Embletone are much more accurate - that´s maybe not necessary for a pure illustration but if you use this pictures for a costume reconstruction I wouldn´t necessarily trust Mr. Bride as much as the others (in fact I don´t trust much any historical illustrator that isn´t me but that´s another story ).

    Hi Axis,

    on the internet you won´t find many reliable books about this topics. If you´re interested in one special era or type of warrior start with the approbiate Osprey book. They aren´t the last word on the topics but they are a good start and often have a good bibliography you can get better and more reliable information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis420

    I also have some Greek Armor pictures i took at the ROM (Royal Ontario Mueseum) anybody know if it's alright to post these? Also i have about 100 medivel armor pictures I took too, if anybody needs some resources just holler.

    Axis420
    Wow glad you posted this thread I too was unhappy with my meager google searches for greek armor....I would greatly appreciate it if you would post those greek armor pics you have, i am working on a concept for a mythical greek warrior with the weapons of all the Gods.
    -Call me Semaj for short.

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    Post Here's the Pics

    Here's those pics Ssenkrah Semaj, sorry about the glare on the pictures, I took them with a crappy camera.They are all real pieces of armor not fabrications so ENJOY!

    I wouldn't mind seeing your mythical greek warrior when it's done.
    Anyways to the pics!

    Greek/Roman Armor?

    Greek/Roman Armor?

    Greek/Roman Armor?

    Greek/Roman Armor?

    Greek/Roman Armor?

    Greek/Roman Armor?

    Greek/Roman Armor?

    That's the last of the greek ones.

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    You should also check out the new game Spartan Total Warrior there are some cool images and video from this game for armor http://cube.ign.com/objects/734/734613.html
    -Call me Semaj for short.

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    Yeah dood, I got a great book on that subject not too long ago, as ancient Greek culture is something I'm a bit too in to. See if you can find a book called "Warfare in the Ancient World," by John Warry. It is all about Greek and Roman warfare, and includes very detailed acounts of battle tactics, and has many many historically accurate illustrations of the weapons/armor/siege devices used by the two cultures. If my scanner wasn't being such a raging boner I would post a few pics so you could see what I'm talking about, but oh well. Check it out.

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    Do you mean "Warfare in the Classical World", by John Warry? I don't see a book by him with the title you mentioned. If that is the same book you're talking about it looks pretty cool.

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    Hey fellas' you should put all this in the Reference Thread:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=30

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    Yeah Brumfield, n00b mistake, that's the book im talking about.

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    I´ve got this book, too, and I can approve it, even if it´s a bit outdated. Good interpretative illustrations and the whole range of greeks, romans and their enemies.

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    Exclamation Moved To Reference Section!

    Heya guys, I moved this thread to the resource section.
    Here's the link: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49741

    Lets post over there.
    I'd close this thread if i could (Hopes a MOD reads this)
    Thanks again to all who posted.

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    well, since it still appears to be open, and free for hijacking.....any of you guys know where I can find reference for peasants and farmer outfits from the Italian Renaissance?
    All I can seem to find are references of what the elite/high class folks would wear....hardly clothing fit for doing farm work in.

    Armour and robes a plenty, but no lower middle class workin' people!
    There had to be some people that grew crops and ran markets and shoe repair stores and whatnot....weren't there?

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    What do you see as the italian renaissance NoUse? It´s a bit tricky because the italian renaissance starts much earlier than the northern one. There are masses of sources though, you just have to browse through the different artsites of the approbiate region. Especially the Italians have a rich and realistical culture of painting since Giotto.

    Maybe this site can give you a start:
    Costumers manifesto
    Italian renaissance links

    It really depends what you´re looking for - the costumes of the 14th, 15th and 16th century that could all portray italian renaissance are quite different.

    Hope I could help you a bit

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    ahh! I'd been to the costumer's manifesto site, but didn't find what i was looking for.
    The Italian Renaissance links was what I needed though. Thanks a ton Fipse! You and your costuming know-how have saved the day once again!

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