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    Is it a good start?

    These are two studies after moulds. I'm new to this forum and I expect critics and remarks.



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    It's a good start because you're concentrating on linear form and construction using your observational abilities from life, and doing a good job.

    Look for composition and placement of form on paper next.....you don't necessarily have to draw the entire object on paper, try cropping it to make it more dynamic or filling the page with as much of the object as possible.

    I generally fail to do that myself, but it does make a piece more dynamic when you do it.

    Here's an example of what I referring to. I wouldn't rework what you did, but copy it digitally and rework it on photoshop or painter like I did. Experiment.
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    I say you're on a great start! Exactly the right way to go! I can tell that you certainly took your time on these. Keep it up!

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    it's a very good start! i say i don't belive these are your firsts! Check your Private message please I'll tell you more there

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    Very good

    I'ts a very good star, in firt pic you show, anatomy, perspective and light/shadow.
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    So... is not a bad start?... :)

    Thank you for your posts! It is really encouraging .Here are some more sketches.

    self-portrait(it doesn't look exactly like me )
    Is it a good start?
    15 min

    fantasy
    Is it a good start?

    and some legs...
    http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...Scanned-02.jpg

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    How were you working from your self portrait? From life or Photo? Anyway, the head is too tilted. Feel's like its goin to fall of hehe.

    Some advice. Be at least 5 feet away from the mirror, and mark your position on the ground when doing this from life. You'll always want to look at your subject as a whole. Don't be too close because you get caught up with all the details. Work from the general to the specific. Decide on a focal point- it's usually an eye on portraits. Also, make one eye more prominent than the other by having a good contrast between light and shadow. Also, keep squinting at yourself so you could see the most basic shapes and values. Keep things simple, i.e., don't put too much focus on hair, or other less important elements. you don't want those to detract attention from the focal point. If this is done well, the viewer's eye will lead right to it.

    This is all basic stuff that could help you out a lot. Goodluck!

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    e bine ce iti spune asta aici .... Cred ca stiai deja multe din ele... (adica sa pornesti de la volume mari - practic un contur major-spre volume mai mici, si mai mici, detalii and so on... ) Contrastul ala dintre lumina si umbra - ai invatat cum se umbreste un cilindru? ca lasi geana aia de lumina in partea cea mai intunecata? Ei, aici lasi u umbra mai "groasa" in partea in care lumina se intalneste cu umbra - o sa vezi ca daca stii sa controlezi kestia asta da foarte bine desenul...

    in al doilea rand - dragonul ala parca ar fii o foaie de hartie decupata .. Da-i volum, gandeste-te la forme si intoarce formele pe rotund
    - mai ales la burta, zici ca (,) cutele alea sunt desenate pe el... uite-te si la mana ai - dunga muchiului... parca ar fi o zgarietura... nici atat...
    Niciodata sa nu-ti iei gandul de la formele incipiente - cilindru, cub, con, sfera! Totul e o combinatie de asa ceva... Uite-te la siteul asta... fa-ti timp si uite=te la tothttp://www.angelfire.com/art3/kchendemos/ - o sa ai ceva de invatat de aici... uite-te atenta de tot la cum da omu asta umbra, pentru ca e GENIAL!


    In al 3lea rand - nu mai umbrii asa!! Alege-ti o zona care sa o ascunzi, o zona care vrei sa iasa in valoare si umbreste mult mai uniform. Arata ca o mazgaleala...

    Iar cel mai important lucru : PE ce format e dragonul ala?? Deseneaza pe A3 maxim! SI deseneaza mult! Picioarele alea sunt cele mai bune din ultimul post.. Pastreaza linia aia! Nici nu se compara cu ultimul desen, chiar daca ai stat mult mai putin pe el. Asta e si ideea. Mult si bine, in putin timp!

    Daca se cere ceva mare, atunci stai si gandeste-te bine la ce ai facut si cum ai facut pe foile mici si .... maresti la scara

    La selfportrait - incearca macar sa tragi niste axe... Si eu am foarte mari probleme cu kestiile astea si nu=mi seamana oamenii pe care-i desenez decat in mica masura.

    o sa intelegi tu daca te uiti pe siteul ala - al unuia pe nume Kevin Chen - ca totul este constructia!

    Spor!

    sory for talking in romanian, but it's much easyer 4 me to speak my mind....

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    Thank you patdzon for your advice. I tried to remake my self-portrait using your suggestions and I think the technique was quite good but in the end it didn't look like me. I have to exercise more. Meanwhile I worked on some buildings perspectives (Romanian churches) after some postcards. I can't post them now because I haven't photographed them yet.

    For Icey: Thanks for your critics I new there was something wrong with the dragon pic but you tod me new things, too.


    The pics posted the second time are older than the first pics but all of them are between my first designs. They are made last summer, about a year ago. I hope I have progressed since then and I'll post newer pics. Thanks you all for your observations and I hope I'll get more after new posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cera
    Thank you patdzon for your advice. I tried to remake my self-portrait using your suggestions and I think the technique was quite good but in the end it didn't look like me. I have to exercise more. Meanwhile I worked on some buildings perspectives (Romanian churches) after some postcards. I can't post them now because I haven't photographed them yet.

    For Icey: Thanks for your critics I new there was something wrong with the dragon pic but you tod me new things, too.


    The pics posted the second time are older than the first pics but all of them are between my first designs. They are made last summer, about a year ago. I hope I have progressed since then and I'll post newer pics. Thanks you all for your observations and I hope I'll get more after new posts.
    Yes, it is hard, but it's a good way of training your visual memory. Another important point is to take your time. Try working on it for days or weeks. Its up to you. A good way of working is to focus on one aspect for a set period of time, then focus on another and so on.

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    great work..
    nice anatomy on that horse..i like your dragon it is well constructed...you could think of a more dynamic pose..try doint a lot of thumbnails very gestural to get the feeling of the whole scene ..then perfect your shapes like you did...I would like to see some other media...and yes post your perpective studies i need to practice more on those myself..
    good suggestion patzon..painting/drawing like this helps your visual memory, forces you to look a lot, simplify things..be accurate..see things as a whole and most importantly have a sharp eye..(thats why this academic students are so good!!)
    the main goal in portraits is capturing the character...(the gesture of those features ) focus on the head as a whole..the likeness will be there regardless of the features....

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    any start is a good start. i'd say to use a variety of techniques when life drawing. that way you wont get too comfortable or lazy with just one approach/technique.

    bring different paper, charcoal, pencil, contes, art crayons, whatever. i really find that things like meticulous rendering (like shading with a pencil) is something you can practice outside of class, so i'd say: focus on shadows by filling them with broad tools like charcoal sticks, as opposed to pencil. you may get way to caught up with drawing hundreds/thousands of little lines, where a few charcoal passes would suffice. do countour drawings. switch, do values, mix it up and all the time look at your model. dont worry about nice pictures. those will come. good luck.

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    Lately, I made a goal in prepairing myself for the college exam so I have drawn buidings. I'll try to change crayons and use the techniques suggested by you in my works. Unfortunately , I don't have all the kinds of drawing tools you have mentioned, so I guess I'll try to buy some new ones. What does "contes" mean?

    Here are some new drawings:

    my (new) self- portrait
    Is it a good start?

    Romanian church from Constanta
    Is it a good start?

    Romanian church from Moldova
    Is it a good start?

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    Conte is a brand of charcoal. Really nice medium to draw with. Get some newsprint pads and a kneaded eraser and go to town. If you can't find Conte try any charcoal stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cera
    Lately, I made a goal in prepairing myself for the college exam so I have drawn buidings. I'll try to change crayons and use the techniques suggested by you in my works. Unfortunately , I don't have all the kinds of drawing tools you have mentioned, so I guess I'll try to buy some new ones. What does "contes" mean?

    Here are some new drawings:

    my (new) self- portrait
    Is it a good start?

    Romanian church from Constanta
    Is it a good start?

    Romanian church from Moldova
    Is it a good start?

    Now that self portrait is much better than before! I see that you're keepng mind of the planes of the head which is good! What bothers me is the hair. Don't be caught up with all the strands, you don't need those. Your hair is like one big mass so think of how the light hits it. Ask yourself where the lightest and dark portions are. From what I could tell, the light is coming from the left so the darkest spots should be where it is most lacking. This should apply to all parts of the head.

    Also try finishing that SP cuz you haven't made apparent the location of the light and where it hits the forms. It is lacking in darks and lights. Other viewers might get confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogfa
    Conte is a brand of charcoal. Really nice medium to draw with. Get some newsprint pads and a kneaded eraser and go to town. If you can't find Conte try any charcoal stick.
    Conte is not charcoal! LOL It's a different medium. Really "waxy".
    Try it out. It's nice.

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    These are two drawings from the architecture class. It is not a perspective study.It is an "axonometrie izometrica " study(I don't know how to translate that in english but I hope you understand what is it about).


    Romanian folk masks

    Is it a good start?


    lighting objects

    Is it a good start?

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