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    Alternative to creationism & intellegent Design

    I dare the Creationists to prove this wrong:
    http://www.venganza.org/index.htm
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    Ahahaha, excellent read!

    I may just convert to the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster myself.

    All praise His Noodly Appendage!

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    this means what, exactly? hes taking a dig at Creationists, using a naive C-14 argument and a cynical approach to Scripture. thats all. whats to debunk?

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    Alternative to creationism & intellegent Design

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    Loved it I hope they really did send it.

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    1. Makes up random hypothesis that sounds kinda like evolution but isn't really at all.

    2. Hypothesis in question doesn't make any sense at all.

    3. Laughs at hypothesis and concludes that evolution must be dumb as well.

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    Oh man... I have found my signature at last...

    EDIT:He's arguing that a science classroom is not the place to teach non-scientific theories. He's not even against creationism being taught in school, its just that a science classroom is not the appropiate place for it. Read the FAQ: http://www.venganza.org/faq.htm
    Last edited by brokk; July 28th, 2005 at 12:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'stoph.
    this means what, exactly? hes taking a dig at Creationists, using a naive C-14 argument and a cynical approach to Scripture. thats all. whats to debunk?
    'stoph, I love ya man, but a warning: this never goes well, and this is now the fourth thread of its kind. You'd be better off drawing.

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    Thumbs up

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    http://www.templeton.org/grant_opportunities/index.asp

    There are religous people that believe in evolution, but believe that evolution is by God's design......and they're willing to give grants for you to prove it too.

    So now religion seems to be succumbing to science.

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    thanks, SJ, youre right (i love you too, by the way hehe). i will make one small note of clarification, then leave it at that.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSeRider
    There are religous people that believe in evolution, but believe that evolution is by God's design......and they're willing to give grants for you to prove it too.

    So now religion seems to be succumbing to science.
    youre right (to an extent). there are such people that claim Christendom and yet still believe in evolutionary models. personally, i call it compromise, and dont care if i offend any in such a position, because you'll note that Genesis doesnt read:

    'and God (in His infinite wisdom and power) said "let there be a big bang, and have 15 billion years pass before man arrives as the growth on a monkeys back" and it was so. and God looked up from his xbox many millenia after saying this and saw that it was good'.

    such compromise doesnt imply Christianity "succumbing to science", to quote you. at the moment there is a large uprising in the Creationist ranks, what with more and more Creationist materials being taken up by the church, encouraging the believers to do away with the secular theories that rob God of the credit thats due and to take on Biblical literallism (as it has always been intended to be).

    let that be the end of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'stoph.
    you'll note that Genesis doesnt read:

    'and God (in His infinite wisdom and power) said "let there be a big bang, and have 15 billion years pass before man arrives as the growth on a monkeys back" and it was so. and God looked up from his xbox many millenia after saying this and saw that it was good'.
    That's because God has a Gamecube. Duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ Bennighof
    That's because God has a Gamecube.
    Wouldn't a Phantom be more appropriate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveO
    Wouldn't a Phantom be more appropriate?
    Hm, I suppose so.

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    Please, I must know, what does a full pirate regalia inculde?

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    That man's nuts. He must've smoked too much sauce.

    Sushi is the true God!!!
    His army of samurais and ninjas are undeafetable!!! And we have more solid evidence to prove all that. For those who does not believe in this thoery, rush into the nearest comic store and get your own very copy of Blade of the Immortal, or simply tune into Cartoon Network for Samurai Champloo. The wonders of believing in the Sushi God shall bring tears to your eyes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamsta
    Please, I must know, what does a full pirate regalia inculde?
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    I have a question for all of you who believe in creationism....Which creation story is it that you believe in..???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Adams
    The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created.
    This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
    Many races believe that it was created by some sort of god, though the Jatravartid people of Viltvoodle VI believe that the entire Universe was in fact sneezed out of the nose of a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure.
    The Jatravartids, who live in perpetual fear of the time they call The Coming of the Great White Handkerchief, are small blue creatures with more than fifty arms each, who are therefore unique in being the only race in history to have invented aerosol deodorant before the wheel.

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    I have these visions of "his noodley appendages" slipping in and cranking over the toaster dial, burning my toast, or slipping one of the cookies off my plate, or flipping off the cop at the light. <I need a "wiping tears from eyes" emoticon, Ponti>

    Oh, do not engage His wrath!

    Do not stand against His devious goodness!

    Do not keep thy fellows from full pirate regalia!

    Do not start another creationism v. evolution thread!

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    I don't get why creationism and evolution are contrary to one another?.....it's still creating.

    To say 'God' didn't do one but did the other is kinda absurd to me.

    I think it has more to do with ego. It's kinda like saying the stork brought you here, then people say you were birthed....then you're in turmoil about which way had more dignity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfood
    Do not start another creationism v. evolution thread!
    Yeah, or this guy will start dancing around in a loincloth waving a blood-soaked TI.

    (Actually, I won't really say the last one ended all that badly. But I certainly could have been drawing some Loomis or something instead)

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    The problem with the whole creation argument is that those who believe in it don't know which one they believe in, the book of Genesis contradicts its very self on what happened.

    Gen.1:25
    And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen.1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    Gen.2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
    Gen.2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

    Intelligent design? Hilarious! ...How about a book that doesn't contradict itself within the very first chapter!
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    Sounds pretty convincing to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssenkrah Semaj
    The problem with the whole creation argument is that those who believe in it don't know which one they believe in, the book of Genesis contradicts its very self on what happened.

    Gen.1:25
    And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen.1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    Gen.2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
    Gen.2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

    Intelligent design? Hilarious! ...How about a book that doesn't contradict itself within the very first chapter!
    I wasn't going to answer this, but...I don't even follow what you're saying. Where's the contradiction?

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    Well one says man was made before beast and the other says man was created after....which creation story do you believe in?
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    Turn this into a serious discussion and so help me god (no pun intended) ill strike you where you stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightKirtar
    Turn this into a serious discussion and so help me god (no pun intended) ill strike you where you stand.
    lol ...i can't resist...sj benninghof always bites too ..luv him for it. Hoping to lure Stoph in and then spring my trap!
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