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    Street Brawl

    Here is a project I am working on for someone. It is going to be a street brawl scene. I am going to set it in front of a biker bar. You won't see too much of the bar, maybe see a bike and an onlooker or two.

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    I wanted to have you guys take a look so far and let me know what I should work on before I start inking. I made a lot of mistakes on the Mighty Max post that I don't want to repeat.

    Let me hear the crits. Don't be shy. I know I am not the best illustrator, but I think this is a great place to improve.

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    Wink Almost a first, nothing but ass-pat!

    Nope! Found a bad forearm...(Chain boy's left past the elbow), and his upper right is a bit short, throws the foreshortening off a bit.
    Almost all ass pat.

    Damn good work, though.

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    really nice sketch.
    there is a little weird stuff going on with the feet though.
    its almost an optical illusion!

    quite frankly, i saw version #2 first:
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    watch out for negative space!

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    he he, that's kinda cool actually, keep it that way. I also saw the reversed leg first

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    Wow that is pretty cool

    Neato!

    I didn't even see that one at first. I am going to put more detail in the boot so that will be lost. Too bad.

    You had me considering twisting his leg like it was hurt.

    Nice observation.

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    Here is another

    Here is an update

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    That bike looks awful small...about 3/4 size or less.

    Straighten out your perspective. Even though the picture is on a slant, you're losing it. The wheels of the bike are in the air if the doorway is to be taken at perpendicular.
    You should ditch the girl and the door (and the tiny bike). You're getting too many directional lines, and the image is losing its focus and punch.
    Maybe a pool table, maybe a back alley, but keep it big and vague. You want the focus to be on the brawl, not the surroundings.

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    i'd straightenout the lines of the pipe too.
    looks weird.
    try making ur canvas larger and just drawing past what you have.

    i like how you handled the bike, but i agree, it's too small.
    would be great to see it like tipping over, like he's getting pushed onto/over it.

    try playing with depth. i think it'd be cool to see a couple other biker fellows
    charging in from the left and close to the camera.

    also where the the "optical illusion" occurred, you've now got one hell of a tangent. ur pants are melding together.
    tangent with the pipe and the bike.
    tangent with the arm and the chest.

    the musclature of the foreshortened arm looks off.

    laydown the lines of the background before u go any further.
    there's no point in all this detail if your background is completely wrong.

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    Great comments

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    I will work on straightening the lines out of the pipe. Unfortunatley, I can't make the canvas larger because this is from a sketchpad.

    I really like you idea of a few more people in the foreground. I think that would help the depth a lot.

    As for the "optical illusion" of the tangents. I was planning on adding more shadows to the pants and arms to try and break them up a little more. What do you think?

    madsterYou are so right about the bike. A clown should be riding it and honking a horn. I got caught up in the detail and didn't even pay attention to the size.

    Could explain a little more about what you mean about "directional lines"? Are you taking about using the vanishing point?

    I was going to put a pool table behind the girl. I wanted to focus on the foreground and work backwards. Most of the building would be in shadow. I wanted it to appear like the brawl was spot lit by a street lamp. Something of a smooth gradient. What do you think?

    Thanks a lot guys. I know I suck when I have something in perspective. It has always been a weak thing for me. I am going to try to apply your suggestions and post an update.

    Thanks again.

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    Hi guys,

    Here is the latest. I am going to start working on shadows and whatnot.

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