Hey, dirty_c, I'm struggling with my drawing and decided to go change direction of my thought. So I went to meditate a little in your thread, because the needed mood is here. Looked at your dear sketches. I love them. You know a color actually distracts me, I feel a bigger impact in your pencil or marker or pen ones. When I look at them a subconscious is leading me, yours or mine, I don't know. I like that complex feeling that I always go through in your book. World of human being, half angel, half animal, so what we got in the end ? Fallen angel? or trying to fly again.
After that I started to think how you draw. You wrote that my favorites you drew in a train or subway. Interesting, people don't disturb you. I think you probably making some funny faces when you draw, because many of your drawings have very interesting and truthful expressions. You have many religious allusions in your art. Wondering how it is entangled inside your mind. It's a pity I'm not allowed in artist's inner process, creative process. That's most fascinating stuff, but you yourself probably don't know how this thought was born.
Well, many thanks for your book, new and interesting ideas for you.
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carnifex: Yes. There's nothing here from then, though. I'll post some stuff tonight, maybe. Currently I'm suffering through yet another hangover. Me, Molly and Imery went out for a drink and drawing session and spent the whole time alienating Molly's boy Tom by talking about Prague and only Prague. The night before that I kicked my best mate out of my house cause I just wanted to talk about Prague online. Seriously, these workshops have all been amazing for me, but that one just took the cake. It's beginning to feel like we're getting sucked into a kind of religious cult like the Koresh thing in Waco hahaha
Jtheanswer: Thanks dude, and look forward to seeing your stuff.
Hiippi: Hey dude, awesome meeting you in Praha. Super nice cat, totally redeemed Finland for me Yeah, I will re-post that character design, but I'm hoping to get enough time this weekend to go through a redesign of it based on Marko and Aleksi's feedback, then post the whole process. Thanks though anyway - like I say, I'll post tonight.
Sve: "Fallen angel? or trying to fly again. " Flying doesn't always lead up, cherub This is a really cool post from you, and I enjoyed reading it. Not just because it's All About Me hehe but in that I like the way you're kinda searching for where you want to go in more than just a 'robots or monsters?' fashion. It's a pity you weren't able to hear some of what Andrew had to say about approaching design from the subconscious where possible. It's a thing I believe in, and where most of the pics people really like of mine originate. As it happens, I'm now working on really getting back into *designing* things properly, and going through thumbnails and iterative depictions. But I think that finding your 'voice' really comes from your soul. Yes, there is a religious feeling to some of what I do, and I don't really mean the kind of angelic stuff, more just the way that I feel, as an ex-catholic, somehow isolated. There's more than that, but I'm at work, so I'm not going to write an essay here. You should maybe catch me on msn sometime.
Tensai: Thanks man! Yeah, I've got to do some work to get things working faster with the VJ thing, but by the next gig we do, I'm hoping to have a dual projector setup with a lot more automation. Gotta email the Corel guy from Prague and demand to see some action on that front..
ExeCuteyPie: Aww, I gotta come see you kids in the City. And yeah, today I'm in pain. Boo.
Will try to post some pics tonight - in the meantime, go check out the party pics in the official prague photo section. My photos are like my paintings hehe
Flying doesn't always lead up? for angel? what else is he capable to do? it's not like he has many choices . Flying or crawling, waiting for a pardon. I agree with you. I'm feeding myself on your burning nerves here, consuming your soul. How disgusting it sounds, but that's true. It's a good thing that for an artist himself it's yesterday, a thought or an emotion that was torturing him in the past and dead now .
I wish you said more. Don't be afraid to open up. What bad could happen? On opposite. One more opportunity to touch somebodies heart on your way from birth to....
I hope I'll read this esse of yours. I really want to read it. I can't catch on msn, I don't know what it is. If it is a chat, I would prefer your post here, I want to reread it again and analize it.
Looking forward for your update.
I wish you said what you think about religion, organized one and that personal belief. Well, that's an abiss of a thinking process.
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Sve, I'll get back to you on that after this. I need to explain the three rules.
But first, here's some of what I've been up to. I haven't included any of the life drawing from Prague, as I really only doodled. And I managed to tear out the best page I've done in ages while drunk last night - maybe Molly will post it.
Done on the plane on the way home. Got me through some pretty serious turbulence. I borrowed Cartoonfox's mechanical pencil. Later I got home and threw away all my traditional pencils haha - Andrew, Marko and Jason all said that i needed to be more patient and find the right line rather than hashing away like I normally do at a million miles an hour. So expect much cleaner stuff from me from now on. Oh yeah, the top guys shit, whatever haha
This is Eriboss's pic in my book. Eriboss is a wicked dude and every time I read his posts now I crack up, cause I can hear his wicked West Country accent
Today's tube effort - unfinished, but sod it, I've scanned it now, I'll probably finish it tomorrow.
Yesterday's tube effort.
Prior to Prague - kinda like it still.
Also before Prague, kinda thing I need to leave behind - no room for detail in the middle of all that graphite..
Possibilities 3: Saturn Returns
This lost a lot of subtlety as it all rubbed off. 10 minute charcoal scribble at the workshop. Some dude (think it was the romanian guy, sorry, forgotten his name) was pretty happy with it and took a pic, but I couldn't convince him to upload it. Funny exchange hehe
This was my entry for the workshop main character of a video game concept. The dragon's her arm, and the boots and backpack are to balance her as it shoots out and unbalances her. I'm gonna redesign her and fix it based on Marko and Aleksi's feedback. PAAAATIENCE.. (this took about an hour)
This was the homework for the prior one, the Degenesis character. Senor Dobsky was down with my "genitals will win it" concept haha but nope! Again, gotta rock with the silhouette-based designs, i reckon.
The view from the window of room B at the golden sickle.
So much more to come. But not tonight.
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Ok, Sve, so here's my central philosophy which I hold in my head when I'm unsure of what I'm doing. I sometimes write it on the canvas if I can't get started, and hold it in my head when I'm staring at the canvas, paper or board and need to free myself of expectations.
1.You're not here to make pretty pictures.
2.Everything you do is wrong.
I never write the third rule.
As you can see, I thrive under conditions of adversity
Ok, so here's what it means. 1.You really aren't here to make pretty pictures. This is a central piece of what I've learnt from ca. If you're hung up on making the picture you're doing the most beautiful picture you can imagine, then you'll screw it right up. You'll be precious, and careful, and afraid to experiment. So when you think to yourself 'You're not here to make pretty pictures' the real meaning is you're here so that you can make AMAZING pictures in a year. If you're not learning something from almost every picture you do, then you've wasted that time. You need to be prepared to do some amazingly bad drawings and paintings in order that a year from now, you will be better than you could have hoped to be on that day.
2.Everything you do is wrong. This bit freaks people out when I tell them haha. If you're standing there with a dark green picture, and it's just not god damned sexy enough, and you've got this crazy idea about laying down this vile pale violet, you're probably gonna freak out. So you gotta laugh at yourself. You gotta think "well, shit, if everything I do is wrong, then I may as well DO SOMETHING INTERESTING."
So that's number two. Accept that you are always wrong. Then do something interesting.
3.Ok, everyone has to write their own third rule. I've got a million ways of putting this, and every day i come up with a new one. Rule number three is The Void. It's the horrible emptiness of the universe that doesn't give a shit about you. It's every person who has ever doubted you, every person who has told you that you just don't have the talent to be what you want to be. It's every fucking art department head who has said that the entire colour family of orange is unacceptable in any picture you did. It's the asshole who told you that you couldn't even draw on your lunch break, cause it was obviously a bad influence on you. It's your god damned parents who forced you through a degree in fucking engineering or law or commerce when you should have been painting for four years! It's the burning core of your being that says to rule one and two, fuck you there are no rules! It's the shitty little town you came from where every mother fucker told you that you'd never amount to anything and it's what you see when you look at the sky and realise that you're alive.
Rule three is actually the simplest rule, because it's not really something you can say in words. But when I do say it, I say it in two:
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Hi there cutie. Haha, I love you even more now after reading your three rules.
Damn I miss you, you're so dirty
Must say that I really like your paintings, didn't see any of those at the workshop.
And your main character still blows my balls.
It was great meeting you.
Thank you for your reply. I read it with a huge interest and planning to read more. And wanted you this or not I smiled a lot. I find humour in very serious things too, sometimes. Just so much of you showed through those words.
About three rules of your creative process. I'll say that rule number two is very close and natural to me. For one I have a low self-esteem . And the second is that everything in our life has a relative, changeable, amorphous, ambiguous meaning and value. Beauty is in the eye of beholder and all that stuff. So I think I'm entitled to experiment and break the rules, because when thinking about who will like to see the outcome, I'm sure somehow that there is at least one "wrong'' person with sensors calibrated the same as mine. Well, commercially speaking things are different, of course.
Rule number one. I didn't think like that.
Fellah, an artist from this forum said once that a rotten wrinkled apple is much more beautiful to him than the "perfect" one. It has more textures and interest. It's not just pretty phrase. There's some truth in it. "Pretty" does have a slightly different meaning. But the thing is everything is relative, "amazing" is a relative too .
About third rule, I guess it works for you, because your work is awesome. In my case I go slightly different. I just think people could be wrong, confused, sick, dishonest, have some flaws. So I don't depend too much on their opinion until I know them better and can "weight" their intelligence, a current moment and their state of mind when they sounded it. So my rule is tell me your opinion and it's up to me to accept it or reject it.
Thank you again for telling me your thoughts, I sure glad you did. Still hoping for your opinion about religion.
Now lets go to your new work. I like that you're offering a lot, a variety of themes.
My favorites are two demons, window ( I like these lines and that it's not perfect ), girl with a dragon hand and the most appealing for me the Face
I would like to take this one.
and I like this drawing of your friend with an alchemist and homunculus.
Forgot to tell you that I love this old drawing of yours with very embellished merry-go-round?
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