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    The high definition era?

    What is the high definition era, does it mean that to own an xbox 360, or any next gen console, we will need a high def T.V? Dont these cost thousands?
    If this is true then that sucks.


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    You'll also be required to buy new controllers on a regular basis because 90% of the games are still sucky and there's no cables anymore to save them from bouncing off the wall when you throw them.

    Kinda related: Taxi Driver: The game. Taxi driver was all about fun and action. I hear you can be a porn cinema boss + pimp if you do all the missions! How fun is that! Are you talking to me?!!!!!=11!!1one!!!

    Edit: to not sound so much like a whining idiot, i think with the DS, Cellphone games and the history of game engines, maybe in the coming years more traditional games start surfacing again. I mean, Doom was graphically pretty much perfect. The graphics and the control were geared to work together. Games like Super Mario need a Super Nintendo, nothing more. You can make them on the Gamecube, but they look pretty much the same technically as the same game on an older system. Many games just don't need all that new processing power, and they look grand because they're developed as one game, not as an XBox/PS2/Gameboy showcase application. Tetris still plays best on the old three shades of green gameboy screen.
    It is well possible for starting companies to put together amazing games on older engines, that will run and look the same on any platform. It's cheaper as well, modern "high definition" (whatever that means again, gotta love those public relations guys) games take way too many artists and programmers for small teams to develop them. I also think there is a market for good games that don't take opportunity of cutting edge technology. People still enjoy playing Snake on their cell phones, because it's a good game. As is Solitaire and Minesweeper. As is Doom, Street Fighter 2 and Nethack for that matter.
    What do you think will win in the long run, say, 5 years. A game with well thought out game design and functional, well designed graphics, or a 3 DVD normal mapped, motion captured wannabe hollywood production featuring Jerry O'Connell? The best games i played this year were Maniac Mansion 2 and Doukutso.

    I don't loathe Microsoft, or every newer game there is. I think the new Unreal looks pretty brilliant. But i've never played those games for long. It's ok as long as there are games like Gran Turismo 4 or Virtua Fighter. But i think the greatest possibility opened up by the new technology is that people can now take the technology they need to make the games they want. When graphically everything is possible, it's not so much of a goal to strife for anymore.
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    The Hi-Def era means that in the US by 2006 all tv signals will become hi-def signals. Theres a law. Seriously.

    What this doesn't mean is evil companies forcing people to upgrade to HD. Just because the SIGNAL is HD doesn't mean that the TV has to be. If your TV is still non HD you'll just get a non HD picture.

    So the Xbox 360 being entirely HD doesn't mean anything bad. In fact... its good that they have it supported for the undoubtable rise in people buying HD tvs as the technology becomes much much cheaper. Plus HD just looks amazingly beautiful! The ammount of discernable detail is amazing.

    90% of the games are still sucky
    I thought we were in a day and age where buying games means reading at least three/four reviews to get a more accurate view of if the game is gonna piss the shit out you? Oh and the Xbox 360 actually has the option of cords if you want... any standard USB cable in fact which will also trickle recharge your controllers =D

    USB ports on the controllers... thats so awesome!

    -toasty

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    I'm going to stick my leg out here and say nothing bad can come from the HD-era. Exactly for the reasons Toaster just mentioned. HD has been long overdue in becoming mainstream and affordable, but we'll be seeing that in the next couple of years, hopefully. Till then... my old TV still works great.

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    A. Kittin- "But i've never played those games for long. It's ok as long as there are games like Gran Turismo 4 or Virtua Fighter."

    You like Virtua Fighter games? I find them very generic lame games. Especially the last one. Akira-the generic Karate Master #4. I mean at least Ryu has his limited personaility, Jin has his inner struggle with the demon blood deal. Akira....is just.....lame.

    Anyways, rant done.

    I doubt they're going to make people buy thousand dollar tv's to play their games. Think of how badly that would hurt them, as many people would just say fuck it, and not play their games. I believe it's simply saying the graphics are going to be stunning and such forth.

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    Toaster: penny arcade
    HugeHarHar, Virtua Fighter 4 is the only one i really played. Yes, the story and characters are very generic, but the controls offer a huge amount of freedom in the way you play the game. It took me a month to really learn how to control my character, and then the possibilities only grew. It's like Dan.v.D. wrote in another thread, you level up in real life not in the game. Of course you still don't have to like it, if the characters are important to you i'd advice you to stay away from it, they don't get better later in the game.
    And absolutely nothing bad can come from the new consoles, all i was saying is that it doesn't matter as much as they make it look. I mean come on, "the high definition era"? That's just plain silly. It's not as if you'll want to play shooter more often now because the higher resolution upped your sniper skills.
    I just think that when all that technology is available, some people may think "Ok, normal maps and high resolution is all good, but i'd like to play some 2D Mario right now." Although the new footage does look seriously sweet. The new Ghost Recon, Project Gotham Racing, and Gears of War. Still, i didn't play Ghost Recon up to now, and i won't start because it looks good.
    USB ports on the controllers is indeed amazing though. I'd like a console that can play all the other consoles though. The way it is right now, there are 2 XBox, 3 Playstation and 2 Gamecube games i'd like to play. And i sold my Playstation 2.

    Edit: Make that 4 games for the Playstation 2, I think i'll get a used one for really cheap when the next gen consoles are in their "early generic games" infancy stage. Remember early games for the current generation of consoles?

    Okami

    From the article:
    Quote Originally Posted by Atsushi Inaba
    With the arrival of the next generation systems, hardware capabilities will continue to rise. It will be possible to create cool characters that are even more photorealistic than ever before. I certainly do not think of this trend as a bad thing. Although I feel it is extremely important that the graphical style has some sort of significance when you play a game. With Okami, we were not going for the photorealistic approach and chose a graphical style that is deeply connected to the gameplay itself.
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    Smile As far as HD?

    I heard Robert Rodriguez (the filmmaker) of Desperado say at a seminar in Hollywood that the creativity is within the artist and not the medium. If we would not be so intimidated as Artists towards technology the technology would only be an extension to our creativity. I'm a background and enviornment artist. (Illustrator) I've been painting for 20 years. When computers came along I was scared, intimidated and afraid that my work would SOON no longer be needed. But I was wrong! Today I still enjoy the traditional painting along with utilizing Painter, Photoshop, 3DS, etc...and I love it. All I'm saying is that if you want to hang you gotta move with the times. Don't be afraid of HD! Learn to use it to your benefit!!!
    SirWilliam

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    It just means that all xbox 360 games will be required to support HD resolutions. It doesn't mean you won't be able to play the games if you don't have an HDTV. But those that do will see the benefits.

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    It just means that all xbox 360 games will be required to support HD resolutions. It doesn't mean you won't be able to play the games if you don't have an HDTV. But those that do will see the benefits.

    As darkarts said... nothing bad can come from this.

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    I dunno, but it sounds cool, and makes me want to play videogames, till my fingertips bleed!!!!!

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