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    Hey all, I'm one of those people who has started a couple of sketchbooks here, but never really stuck with them. Even though I'm drawing everyday, I'm not drawing as much as I should, and sometimes find it difficult to keep pushing after a couple hours.

    So basically what I'm suggesting is that we get a group together, to post some of our art everyday, and that everyone in the group would crit everyone else's stuff and try to keep each other motivated. I'm think between 6-8 people per group, because having to crit 20 people's sketchbooks every single day would eat up valuable drawing time. Obviously if you don't have ready access to a scanner or quality digicamera (or a decent art program), it probably wouldn't be worth your while to join up.

    Another aspect would be that if you miss a day, everyone in the group harasses you through PMs about having not posted. This kind of thing would help those of us who have trouble motivating ourselves to scan stuff in. Obviously its best if you have your profile set up to email you when you get a new PM, that way you can't just avoid the board if you're feeling lazy.

    Obviously if a lot of people wanted to join, we could just break people into groups. I was also thinking that it would be cool to do monthly awards: Most prolific (most pages), Best Crit-giver, Vote for Most Improved, etc.

    So, anyone interested? I'll be posting my new sketchbook by noon today, and I'm proposing that we all post at least one page by Midnight (local time) on a daily basis. And if you have any ideas on how to do it better, by all means let me know.

    What it comes down to is:
    1. Post at least one page every day.
    2. Post at least one crit in everyone's sketchbook ever day.
    3. PM any member of the group who hasn't posted by the end of the day.


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    We now have SketchGroup Lite. Essentially this for the folks who've expressed concerns about not being able to post everyday. There's less pressure to post, but you still get to be part of a group, and get some support. Generally, you should still post at least once a week though, and also crit the other people in Lite as well.

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    I'm in if anyone else is...

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    Yeah, I could definately do with some motivation like this, I'm in.

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    Seems like a very good idea, but I really don't know if I could keep it up. I should actually be working for school the coming 2 weeks.. I'm a bit scared that it won't work out, but anyway.. I'd like to give it a try. You can still throw me out of the group if I'm not active enough

    This is my sketchbook http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37965 (latest entry: february 9th.. Oww, but I promise you I'll really try. )

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    Cool, just remember that besides posting your own stuff to crit each others stuff. I'll keep the links to the sketchbooks in this thread, so you can just add this thread to your favorites to make things easy. Noone has to crit mine just yet, cuz I gotta put something decent in there tonight.

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    I'm there.

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    I'd love to participate, but I'd be starting a sketchbook from scratch. Would that be alright? I've actually been meaning to start a sketchbook thread at conceptart.org since the workshop in January but I've been very lazy

    I'd actually like to participate more in the forums then I have been, so this seems like it'd be a good starting point for me and I could use the art-whoopin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan
    I'd love to participate, but I'd be starting a sketchbook from scratch. Would that be alright? I've actually been meaning to start a sketchbook thread at conceptart.org since the workshop in January but I've been very lazy

    I'd actually like to participate more in the forums then I have been, so this seems like it'd be a good starting point for me and I could use the art-whoopin'.

    Hey man, if you can post on a daily basis the more the merrier. I'm starting my new sketchbook from scratch anyway, so you won't be alone in that.

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    Sounds like a great idea, I would love to sign up but I have way too many deadlines for school and such to meet up.
    I might later on, because I need the kick in the butt to move forward.

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    Count me in.

    I'll have a new one up everyday, starting tomorrow. If not, I'm expecting a punch in the kidneys....ok, so maybe just a slap on the wrist.

    Awesome idea anyway that it goes.

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    Oh, I'm definitely in... We'll probably have to make 2 or 3 separate groups. Great idea, SeraphSword! Tell us who the people are in our group and we'll start critting/PM'ing/posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraphSword
    Hey man, if you can post on a daily basis the more the merrier. I'm starting my new sketchbook from scratch anyway, so you won't be alone in that.
    Thanks! I've started up my sketchbook so count me in

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    OK I broke it up into 2 groups for now, they are in the first post. Since this is starting in the middle of today, it will start officially tomorrow, so make sure to post something and post your crits by tomorrow midnight. As more people join up, I'll add them to the groups we have, then if we got a lot more we can add a new groups or two. Also feel free to crit stuff in the other groups if you feel like it. Couldn't hurt.

    Just a side note. Post only things you've done that day, since that's kinda the point. No point in critiquing older stuff, with problems you may have already solved. Glad to see such a positive repsonse. Now git drah'n!

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    ---EDIT----yeah I guess I jumped the gun, but I'm exhausted and was hoping to of been able to of done the crits tonight, I'll get them tomorrow morning, I'm looking forward to your stuff Ben.

    Well this would of been an awesome idea, if any of my group would of joined in my efforts.

    I guess I must start their deserved amount of harrassment.

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    Midnight is a long way away, dude, hold the dogs of war back at least for another hour or so. *drawdrawdrawdraw*

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    Well... I updated. Check it you guys

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    I'd like to participate in this right now, but only if I can withdraw or become a less productive poster and critic later on... As it is right now, I have time to draw and I'm usually online once or more every day, but that will change after a while.... It would help me get myself to the drawing table every day now when I have the time to get some progress, though.

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    Damn it...everyone is giving me the link to the loomis page, but my computer is being gay, and acrobat isn't working....damn it.

    I want Loomis.


    Ugh, I'll keep trying.

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    It's a great site once it loads

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    Hang on, guys, mine's getting there...

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    I'm totally for this. However, I will say up front that posting *every* day is at this point an impossibility for me, but I could certainly hit 3 out of 5 or 4 out of 7 or some such.

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    Mine's up. Oh yeah, and tomorrow night I'll have to hit some homework really, really hard, so I doubt I'll be able to get anything of mine up. I'll try to get in and crit everyone else's, but I probably just will not be able to pick up a pad tomorrow.

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    Thanks to you all for stepping up so quick, not just with your sketchbooks, but with the crits also. One of the reasons I wanted to start this thing was for those people who might be at the beginner's level, but who post on a regular basis, yet get no crits because everyone is just posting drool comments on the professional threads (granted, I do that too, but the people who need it more are the less polished). Looking good so far. This could really turn into something.

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    Some suggestions for motivation in case you can't think what to draw:

    Self-portrait a day
    Check out the daily sketch group (good for pushing yourself in areas you might not otherwise attempt)
    Start a Sketch Diary (draw something significant that happened that day, with text)
    Draw your hand (lots of us could use work with drawing hands)
    Draw some fanart (the design has been thought up for you, you just add your own style to it)

    Any more suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evildisco
    Sounds like a great idea, I would love to sign up but I have way too many deadlines for school and such to meet up.
    I might later on, because I need the kick in the butt to move forward.
    I'm in the same situation See you guys later! (if possible)

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    hey, this sounds cool. All I have to do is last five minutes while everyone else beats the crap outta me right? And im in? Im doing 3D for work, but trying to sketch a whole lot more in my free time, so I'll do my best to get something new in everyday.

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    Done some crits for now, will get more detailed when new work is up. Thanks for adding me in the group.

    Just a note, I might be in another timezone or be here at other times than the people I'm with, so the time I'm posting every day might differ a lot.

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    I'm in ... so when do we get started?

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    It's already begun. Just try to post something by midnight tonight. If you just got added today, you're given a little leeway, but you definitely have to post something before midnight tomorrow.

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    AHHHHHH crap! Im sorry guys ive been busy lately im sorry i forgot about this. Ill try and get something up today, my teacher for drawing for animators class gave us sketch book assignments that we have to do weekly, so ill show u that stuff. I was wondering why my sketchbook was getting so many replies. I just started the new quarter so im gonna be very busy with drawing, and learning how to composite and other things so im gonna keep up with this as much as I can...

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    Woot I'm in the same group as Oreg and SJB ... this should definitely be fun!

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    Anyone want to try talking once a week on ventrilo. All you need is a mic and someone needs to setup a server. Always wanted to have conversation, with some of the people in here. I think it would be an interesting experence as well. Anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaPalida
    Woot I'm in the same group as Oreg and SJB ... this should definitely be fun!
    Hehehe...

    Oh, and I might actually throw something up tonight after all. Can't make any guarantees, as I've got very gratuitous amounts of homework tonight. I'll be in to crit if nothing else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom_Cube
    Anyone want to try talking once a week on ventrilo. All you need is a mic and someone needs to setup a server. Always wanted to have conversation, with some of the people in here. I think it would be an interesting experence as well. Anyway

    As I just got a headset, I'd be very much in favor of this if there are enough others with headsets in my group. Heck, I paid roughly thirty dollars for a very convenient, compact, and simple plug-and-play job at Best Buy. Truly worth the money.

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    It's awesome that a lot of people are becoming interested in it... once again, great idea SS.

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    Solid.

    I'm in. The link to mine's in my sig.

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    Great Idea, I'm in =D

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    I want in

    Hey, Odds made me aware of this post! I want in!

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    this is a great idea SeraphSword. im in!!!

    i will do my best to update everyday
    my first update is coming tomorrow.

    so do we post in one sketchbook from someone in our group a day, or post in everyones everyday?? just wanna be sure.

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    I think the idea was a crit in every SB in your group every day.

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    Yeah, it's everyone's in your group, that's why I split them up, so you don't have to post crits in 20 threads everyday.

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    Okay, the groups need names.

    By the way, how many people in Group 2 have a headset or a mike or some way of doing Ventrilo?

    EDIT: Also, I like the way Oregano is using the Gear icon for his Support Group posts. That might be something to adopt as a standard, so people can instantly pick out their Support Group crits.

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    I got a mike and vent.

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    so do i.

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    so whos gonna set the server up?

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    k im totally down for this, how do you know what group you get in, and where do you post?

    This will definetely keep me motivated. Another cool idea to add to this, would, be in the group that you are in, everygroup, could have a weekely theme, like, santa killing a rabbit, lol, or Steambot, or ORcs. You all know what themes are. Think that would be cool?

    And in that group, each person gets to choose a topic, so say i would choose one for the first week, and someone else chooses a topic the next. Themes would be different in each groups, although you could look what other groups are doing for there themes, and also use the same theme, if you want.

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    Justin, all you gotta do is start up a thread in the sketchbooks section, and post everyday. Once you have a thread started, I'll add you to the links up top. As for what group, I just add them as they come in, so you'd likely be in group 3 right now.

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    Well lets get my ass in one of those groups then I just started a brand new sketchbook thread, and i will start to post and comment, when you stick me in a group.

    Also. SeraphSword, what do you think about my idea with the theme? And make it, so its a for sure, just like everyone has to post daily, there has to be a theme every week, it would be really good, push us to create things we wouldnt normally think of.

    Another thing, im up for that ventrilo chat as well. I have a mic, and i can get ventrilo, just tell me when its set up.

    Oh yeah, here is my sketchbook http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42471

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    OK, you're in.

    As for the themes, I wouldn't want them to become the focus of the groups (there's already the DSG), but weekly doesn't sound too bad if the people in your group are down for it. Like a theme that you have a weekly deadline for (not something you have to do every day), sounds ok.

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    k cool i will get to work

    As for the themes, yeah i just ment, at the end of every week, we would have a theme. And you have to do it and post at the end of the day, just like anyother drawing day. Or you could give some extra time... I didnt mean themes everyday, cause thats to harsh. Weekly should be fine. Who is down for this?

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    Personally, I'm not against themes - that's one reason that I consider the Daily Sketch Group, C.O.W. and thunderdomes to be such powerful tools.

    However, I think in terms of the SSG, it might be best to leave the idea of themes up to an individual group.

    If, later on, the groups want to go at each other for a good natured T-Dome, that would be good too

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    Oregano - it might be best to leave the idea of themes up to an individual group


    I agree. When should these themes be done though, every monday, or friday or sunday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinBeckett
    Oregano - it might be best to leave the idea of themes up to an individual group
    Um... that's what I just said


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    i know hahah, but i said i agree, on that part, lol.

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    Oregano just pwnd himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom_Cube
    so whos gonna set the server up?
    I'm gonna catch zap on IRC at some point and see if she'd mind making a new Vent channel on her server for each of the groups.

    EDIT: The channels have gone up. Right now they're named Sketch Group 1, Sketch Group 2, and Sketch Group 3, and I'm sure all you guys can think of better names than that...

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    again, Seraph... thanks for bringing this great idea to CA. i can already see improvement in the sketchbook forum. people are critting more and everyone is being helfpul. THANKS!

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    Yes. *Raises (Root) Beer*

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    hehe yea its great fun, and i just started

    Benninghof, are those channels for irc, or ventrilo, if its for irc, what server they on?

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    It's all on zap's server, address zapradon.zapto.org, username is the same as the address, Port 3784. And the three rooms are just right there in the server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinBeckett
    k cool i will get to work

    As for the themes, yeah i just ment, at the end of every week, we would have a theme. And you have to do it and post at the end of the day, just like anyother drawing day. Or you could give some extra time... I didnt mean themes everyday, cause thats to harsh. Weekly should be fine. Who is down for this?
    sounds good. Maybe even cycle through everyones weakpoints, and make themes tailored for that.

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