i've been browsing this thread, along with most on here, for a while now without commenting. mainly because i see loads of progress and good advice here anyway... and there has been a huge amount of great progress here. From my point of view i'd suggest looking at mentler's construction and the way he builds figures around a 'flow'
All your progress is in danger of stalling a bit if you start to outline figures, i feel i want to see more overlaps on linework and more structure, be that with anatomical detail or shading that suggests depth, hatching and such. (think steak-tron stylee)
solorpower, Thanks that one may in fact become an oil painting, it has an old fashioned pin-up kind of feel. I have an old Walter Foster book about painting nudes, by Fritz Willis. He was a big time glamour and pin-up painter of the 50's. Perhaps I'll just go step by step through the book.
ZebzFree, "Someone's a horny little bastard!" No! no no no no yes... a bit.
As to rendering; let's just say I'm a work in progress.
You see I never really did anything with my art when I was younger, I got a "real job" at the factory instead. Then when I did break out I became a signpainter and then a muralist, but never really developed my drawing skill much beyond what it was in high school.
So anyways now I'm trying to catch up on all kinds of stuff I should have learned 25 years ago. I'm coming at the whole thing from the wrong side in a way, and have all these years of bad habits to overcome.
But this sketchbook has been one of the best things I've ever done for myself, it keeps me practicing new things and breaking (for me) new ground.
So Thanks for stopping by, pop in and gimmie hell any time you like. I'll be here.
Ni* ni? As in "the knights who say; Ni"?
Thanks for the kind words, no need to be shy about repeating crits that have already been said, I'll take them more seriously that way. Plus sometimes it takes several differently phrased comments before I'm really sure what it is that people are trying to say.
Mentler's good, I'll take a closer look at his thread at your suggestion. Steak's too.
I'm glad I make you want to draw, now get after it!
Your drawings look great!
but ermm... what's up with the silicon shaped breasts? Not like they are really big but their shape... doesn't seems natural. It could be the exact way you want it to look, like it's special, you know what I mean?
But still gotta hand it to ya it's looking good.
good luck with it and see ya!
Isobel, Thanks for the compliments and crits.
Lots of people have mentioned the way i draw breasts before so I know I'm doing something wrong, but I can't see it. If I'm doing something specific with them it's unintentional. I'm drawing from refference and showing 'em like I see 'em. That's not to say I'm doing it right or that I wont go back some day and say "Geez dude what's with the round boobies?" But for now if there's something wrong I just can't see it.
Larry Elmore told me that he drew really big eyes on people for the longest time, and everyone said so, but he just couldn't see it. Then one day he just saw it and was able to correct it from then on.
Maybe the same thing'll happen to me. We just have a different...area of interest.
Hello hello. Maybe on some drawings the breasts seem quite flat compared to their overall mass. But the main reason people comment on them is propably
that they are used to seeing massive boobs on the female character's. Looking
at comic art you usually don't see anything below DD. I could be wrong though
but I kinda like the way you draw them so who gives a darn or dang or whatever. Would like too see some ink drawings aswell. See ya.
Hey dude! Love the styling on of the hair on #218. Your wrestling pieces are really cool because it shows you have skills in drawing two characters at the same scale. But I gotta say your life drawing assignments are off the hook. Really nice work as always. Happy Bday!!
darkchild, Thanks man.
Drawing from life is Sooooo much better than drawing from a refference photo. It's accurate for one thing, but there are so many nuances of light and shadow, little plane changes and stuff that a flash bulb just washes away or you just loose due to the small printing size. Plus if the pose is'nt quite right you just keep moving your easel around the room until you like the view.
But, of course, the real reason that my life drawings look better than my other stuff is that they're in charcoal on 18" x 24" paper, while the rest of my drawings are in a 9" x 12" sketchbook, with a #2 graphite pencil.
People have suggested that I do some planar studies, so I'm giving it a try.
i think i know what it might be about your babe's boobs: if drawn from a swimsuit catalog or whatever, they have that perminant invisible bra, so they always looks perky like your eyes are telling you there is a bra there even though there isnt. the ones from life look more realistic because you can see the sag however slight it is, but that tiny7 detail makes it a bit more believable and less comic.
i think that made sense..... (it does to me at least)
aliceglass I think that's part of it, also too many models have fake boobs, also I don't draw as well as I'd like. I can actually work on that last one. Truthfully even if there's something wrong with my source material, I should be able to recognize it and correct it.
Thanks for coming by even though I stood you up a while back. Didn't mean to do that, I really should look at my messages every now and then.
OK this one's certainly no better, but here we go again.
Hello again. Like the gal from the life drawing class. Thought of going on one myself. Have you thought of slowing down a bit with your studies. I would suggest you studying more on the overall line quality than the anatomy cause your know your anatomy well. It would really put you on the next level.
Always keep in mind that my suggestions could be veeeery shitty. See you soon.
aliceglass, I'm afraid I must have deleted your e-mail. Sometimes legitimate stuff gets lost amid the 4 dozen daily ads for free Viagra, penis enlargements, breast enlargements, and incredible cash prizes. But if you send it again I'll try to be more carefull. Does it say "aliceglass' in the from line or "conceptart" in the subject line? It would help.
Placeboast, I'm going to take your advice just as soon as I understand it. I'm not sure what various people mean by "line quality" could you refer me to some good examples?
This is a girl at the Carls Jr where I have breakfast and draw most of these babes. She's quite the babe herself.
I noticed on #228 you actually sketched in the toes (well thats not all I noticed). Great details like that brings out the piece! I think thats the most down to earth pic of a female you have posted. Simple, elegant and wearing normal clothing Keep up the awesome work.
Well you know, you're not the only one who's not sure what I mean. I'm not sure either. It almost seems that you use pretty hard pencils maybe not on the best quality of paper. Line is kinda always the same thicknes and there is no diffence on the value. I'm am struggling with that problem myself. My line is not very intresting and that has followed me through all the years I have been drawing. Hope this clears my thoughts a bit. See you soon.
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darkchild, Yup she has toes. It's kind of a breakthrough for me.
Placeboast, Good call, I've been using standard #2 pencils fom Office Max which I have felt were a little harder than other #2 pencils I've used. The paper is those hardbound sketchbooks that they sell at Borders or Barnes and Noble. They're nice books to carry around, but the paper quality is probably not terrific.
I'll be posting more as soon as my web host gets over whatever problem they're having.