deryk's figure drawing study thread (UPDATED april 22, 2005)
well i've got one jack hamm book and the set of bridgman books on the way from amazon, and i've got virtual pose 3 already on hand in case i feel the urge to draw from "life." it'll take roughly a month for the books to arrive here in my country, so i'd like to spend the time doing some studies first.
where do you guys suggest i start figure drawing? muscle anatomy? skeletal structure? whatever the general consensus is, and based on the explanations, i'll start there and post up my drawings once i get my scanner up and running.
thanks everyone. i do hope to get a lot better someday.
Last edited by deryk; April 22nd, 2005 at 07:59 AM.
Well I am by no means an expert on the subject but I'll try and pass along some of the things that have helped me out so far. From your post I don't really know what level you're at so I'm just gonna start from the beginning. First you need to be able to draw what you "see". Basically, you need to be able to look at something and use 2 dimensional ideas as a way of drawing it. If you've ever read "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" thats basically what I'm talking about. Drawing contours, checking angles, negative spaces, that kind of thing. These tools give us a good basis to work from in recreating what we see. From that, work on drawing the figure as simplified forms in perspective. Use boxes, balls, cylinders, anything that has 3 dimensions, to break down the figure and understand its volumes. Also work on drawing gestures, simple stick figure-ish type drawings that depict the action of the figure which is the most important part to making the figure read well. Try drawing gestures and adding the basic forms on top of that. For anatomy, some might disagree, but first I would work on the skeleton and learning all the various points of articulation and how the skeleton is the framework for the body. From there learn where the muscles attach to the skeleton and their form and function. All of these things will help you to more accurately see what you're looking at, and give you some tools to fall back on if necessary.. so its really like a bunch of observation and knowledge all coming together I think. Draw and draw a lot more, everything that we see has 3 dimensions and is lit by light, so in a way anything you choose to study will only help you draw better overall.
hi. thanks for replying. yep i do admit my post was kinda vague. i guess i should have mentioned that i've done still life with pots, plants fruits, vases, etc already. and yes, i've complete betty edwards' "Right Side of The Brain" book. i've decided to take up figure drawing as the next step.
i'm still trying to work on getting my scanner up, but i've done some studies using mentler's skull formula which i'll post up soon. i'm not sure if it's the right place to start, but i guess it's as good as any, i hope.
here are a few sketches i made using mentler's skull formula.
pardon the quality, i took these using my camera phone. turns out my scanner doesn't work with windows xp, so i'll have to ask a friend to scan for me from now on.
i'd appreciate any and all crits. basically from sketching i've realized i have trouble feeling out the jaw area, which ends up either too narrow, too broad, too long, or too short. i also have some problems with drawing the teeth using the 2-1-2-3 formula (seem to run out of space all the time).
Good start ~~~~ hard to tell very much because of quality <> chin looks a little wide on a couple of them <>l<>l<> I will check in on you once in a while to see how you are doing ~~~~~ get involved with SoFA
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borrowed my friend's scanner, so i can post up my sketches now.
here are enlarged versions of the sketches i posted up last march 31:
and a new skull i drew up while waiting in line at our university registrar's office:
to recap: from the first set of sketches, i've realized i have trouble feeling out the jaw area, which ends up either too narrow, too broad, too long, or too short. i also have some problems with drawing the teeth using the 2-1-2-3 formula (seem to run out of space all the time).
patdzon: thanks for the critique. been a long time since anyone else posted here.
yes, some of them definitely look weird.
i guess most especially my earlier ones. i'm trying to achieve a level of consistency with mentler's skull formula, since as of now it's been pretty hit or miss. my guess is it may be with the initial measurements. i'll try to be closer attention next time.
i'll probably spend a few more days with this then. it'll be of no use proceeding to, say, perspective drawing if i can't get this ortho view right.
keep the critiques coming folks. i'll be working on more sketches 'til then.
there is progress, especially on the proportions. if you're drawing from memory, you might need to be refreshed, there is potential. http://www.bartleby.com/107/illus190.html
gray's anatomy is an awesome reference, they're drawings and the lines wraps.
keep drawing skulls, try side view it could make the skeletical cheeks drawing easier and less troubled.
a sketchbook that commited is owned by me. you will not fulfill your destiny by clicking it, but...maybe that it'll help you avoid brain cancer. hmm hmm..
ei guys. got sidetracked a bit in my anatomical studies. patdzon taught me a few things about sketching from life over yahoo messenger so i thought i'd post the result here for all to see (yeah this means you too, patdzon :p).
i did this around 15 mins after he taught me. you rock dude.
i used a photo for reference since everyone was asleep when i did this (so no live models, unfortunately).
I'm glad to see you applying what you've learned so far! I know this is pretty much advanced for you but always take one step at a time before goin to the next. I'll see you online soon and I'll teach you some stuff.
here are some sketches patdzon asked me to do as practice for drawing the figure later on, and as practice for technique as well. i used some concepts from anthony ryder's book on figure drawing here as well.