Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 34
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Austin TX
    Posts
    11,707
    Thanks
    2,091
    Thanked 11,435 Times in 2,935 Posts

    Feng Rip Off!! ART THIEF!! did he steal your work too???

    hey all...

    this guy is applying to differnt game companies with fengs work that he butchered. Some of it may belong to you. if you work for a game studio beware. if you dont...feel free to email him and let him know how you feel about it

    click on his environments

    http://personal.inet.fi/koti/scott.a...olio/index.htm


    j

    www.artbyfeng is fengs link for comparison.


  2. Hide this ad by registering as a member
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Victoria, BC
    Posts
    1,628
    Thanks
    20
    Thanked 111 Times in 104 Posts
    OMFG! Ha ha ha. How the hell does he expect people to believe he did those enviroment drawings... after looking at his sketches and matte paintings you can tell he isn't skilled enough to do those. What an idiot!

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Austin TX
    Posts
    11,707
    Thanks
    2,091
    Thanked 11,435 Times in 2,935 Posts

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    879
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts
    done!! message sent.
    There was much rejoicing in the realm of the Harvest Gods when man created the beer, light could not penetrate.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    879
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts
    this guy has already removed the environments from his site. I hope he shit a peach pit.
    There was much rejoicing in the realm of the Harvest Gods when man created the beer, light could not penetrate.

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    940
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked 525 Times in 47 Posts
    that dude is so funny. i love his own definition of "matte painting"...

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Austin TX
    Posts
    11,707
    Thanks
    2,091
    Thanked 11,435 Times in 2,935 Posts
    the mattes...lol...terragen renders...hahahah

    he took down the feng rip offs...did anyone download them?


    he must have gotten a pile of emails from the eatpoo crowd..i posted this over there too.


    did anyone dowload the feng riip offs he did?

    i should have just to keep them in this thread for an example of what NOT to do.

    his concept career is toast for the most part...i would bet good money that even the guys over at lucas ranch saw that stuff. after all, if i found it you know that they did.


    jason

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    267
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
    Not like he really had a chance at ca anyway...
    well... not unless he studies more.

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    CA
    Posts
    282
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    I missed it. I got home too late. Did he just trace over Feng's drawings or did he actually grab the images off of Feng's site and post it on his?

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Pointless Forest/RO
    Posts
    2,851
    Thanks
    653
    Thanked 571 Times in 123 Posts
    check out his sketches!
    those are "Poser sketch renders" butchered!
    THE LOOSER!

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Austin TX
    Posts
    11,707
    Thanks
    2,091
    Thanked 11,435 Times in 2,935 Posts
    he both painted on fengs images and if he was feeling lazy would just desaturate them and save it...and then call them his own.

    painting on them consisted of putting text on the ground and thats it.

    total thievery.


    j

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Austin
    Posts
    1,104
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    we had a skin artist apply at Rogue once with a portfolio full of hacked or completely ripped off quake 3 skins.
    just for humor we gave him an art test. we gave him a completely forign creature model to skin, and what he turned in was the bigest joke. it looked like the art of an eight year old.
    what the fuck did he think was going to happen if we actually hired his fraudulant ass? did he really think we wouldnt notice that his "real" work was completely SHIT??

    heres the funniest part. before we had the chance to bring it to our art director attention that this guy was a fake,, he actually paied to fly this fuck hole to the office for an interview. heres the kicker,,,, the dude had NO industry experience and he told us that he wouldnt settle for a salary lower than 80 grand a year! AHHHHHhahahahahahaha!

    what a a dumb shitty fuck!

    -Lono

  14. #13
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    86
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    that brings light to another subject. what do you think one should do to protect themselves from things like that? small low res pics on your site, watermarks?

  15. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Austin TX
    Posts
    11,707
    Thanks
    2,091
    Thanked 11,435 Times in 2,935 Posts
    the opposite i would think EXPOSURE so that your work is easily recognized.


    j

  16. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    CA, USA
    Posts
    2,422
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
    damn lol Feng can't get a break... isn't this the second time?

    -Joshua

  17. #16
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Richmond, VA...USA
    Posts
    61
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    They say imitation is the highest form of flattery...I don't know what they say about straight up ripoff though...
    ...pants fulla justice...

  18. #17
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    LA
    Posts
    42
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    dude that is seriously the funniest thing I have ever heard of. I wouldn't worry about that happening to you though. If your stuff is worth ripping off then chances are that your good enough for it not to matter.
    Rad Sechrist
    www.radsechrist.com

  19. #18
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Denmark, CPH
    Posts
    816
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Whoa this is like a shark frenzy!
    I ALMOST feel sorry for the guy...

    Still he must have had it comming. Guess we all have our skeletons hidden away, but to use them to get a job!?!

    If there is one good thing about this affair, it is how you guys rallied togheter, in support of feng. Copyright is really a weird thing, I haven't really sent any portfolios around yet, but I do wonder who is going to see them, and how they are going to be used.
    My worst fear is that some A.D. sees my portfolio and thinks "Nice idea, but execution is woth shit, I'll pass it down to guys and see what they make of it"
    This probaly comes from being inexperienced on my part, what do yo think of this?
    R_M

  20. #19
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    147
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    what i don't understand ,how he planed to produce concepts if he had get the job wouldn't it be hard to find feng pic's wich fit the topic ,after a while

    and i agree with mr. manley the best way to protect agains this is get famous .in the end of it there is always someone who knows the pic already ,like this time.


    www.artbyfeng.com <-- (the "full" link ,but i guess you already know :p )

  21. #20
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Denmark, CPH
    Posts
    816
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Maybe he hope that there wheren't that many SW fans out there...
    www.robertomarchesi.com

  22. #21
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    6,033
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked 221 Times in 95 Posts
    I like the description of one of his characters:

    "Rutger concept for the Sandworld project. Rutger was originally bald. But after he got his hair he was dark and about twenty years younger than in the final concept."

    Wow!

    If your artwork is bad, make your concept/description worse...

  23. #22
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    chicago
    Posts
    862
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    once again...i miss out on all the fun.

  24. #23
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    YUL = MONTREAL !
    Posts
    3,534
    Thanks
    276
    Thanked 129 Times in 88 Posts
    Remins me of Wild E. Coyote and ACME.. Altho this guys' ongoing love story is with metacreation...........
    :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

  25. #24
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    355
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    He'll never get a job huh?
    Perfect Kay

  26. #25
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    coro's basement, San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    253
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
    wow...

    oh yeah, he still has up a sketch of a droid that I'm pretty sure he ripped off of Khang Le (If my memory serves me correct)...

  27. #26
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    CA
    Posts
    282
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Scott's response

    For those that don't read eatpoo, Scott himself responded. Here's his excuse:

    Hi, I'm the guy that caused all this fun for you guys. I've already contacted mr Shu and explainen to him the situation. My email:


    My name is Scott Austin and I'm sure that by now you aware of all the hulabaloo about my using your pictures on my site. I hope you will here me out...

    FIRST: I would like to apoligize for any discomfort I've caused. I will
    not however apoligize for passing them off as my own for that was NOT MY INTENTION. I know this sounds very rude but please let me continue... I have a very basic setup at home which means no scanner. I travel 300 km every few months to my dad's and use his. So when making my site I use what I have and tempararily subsitute the rest with photos (usually) that represent the same kind of setup I'm going for. As of lately I've began to study the same techniques that most concept artists such as yourself, Doug Chiang etc. use. I guess that is why I made the mistake of using a couple of your environment pics to setup my pages. In my hurry to get my site finally up and going I accidently published the unfinished Environment page with your pics still on it.

    Even worse I sent it out to various gaming companies. You can guess the result...

    I know that this probably sounds like a REAL LAME excuse but thats how it really went. I mean, you being who you are, only a complete idiot would try to pass off your pictures for his own. I might as well just upload a bunch of Ralph MaQuarrie concepts and say "Hey look at my neat scifi pictures". I work with the internet everyday and know as well as anyone what would happen...

    I'm part of a couple forums myself so I know how a witch hunt starts and keeps going and going... I don't mind you all tearing my samples apart (some people call it critique ) I do however find it kind of shocking how fast a lynch mob was formed. It seems only "imager777" was even close to being on track.

    As for the Poser theory... A while ago Metareyes became free for MAX. Try it befor throwing those kind of accusations around. The clothes were made with Clothreyes and touched up in Photoshop. (Great for stills kind of worse for animations )

    If you've read this far I would like to ask you all to please try and keep the hatemail to these kind of forums. The reason being a little girl at home who gets kind of confused when instead of mail from her grandparents theres a variaty of four letter words!

    I know this won't end here though... I mean hey, we all like a witch hunt, right?

  28. #27
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    940
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked 525 Times in 47 Posts
    "Even worse I sent it out to various gaming companies. You can guess the result... "

    i would have swallowed the whole thing if there had not been this sentence in the middle.

    the guy can call it like he wants, witch hunt, finger pointing....

    having his own art stolen and ripped off is the most humiliating and unfair thing that can happen to an artist. putting so much effort into art, and sharing stuff on the net, it's nearly sacred. this choice has to be respected. if it isn't, trespassers will be prosecuted.
    if such "witch hunts" can prevent dudes from using materials that aren't theirs, so be it.

  29. #28
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    6,033
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked 221 Times in 95 Posts
    witch hunt? I actually don't care about his perspective in this industry...if he's good, he'll get a job like in every industry...

    The problem is:

    "I work with the internet everyday and know as well as anyone what would happen... "

    ...if someone works everyday with the internet, it can't be that he makes such a mistake:

    "In my hurry to get my site finally up and going I accidently published the unfinished Environment page with your pics still on it."

    I mean, no one would upload something without checking it afterwards...???

  30. #29
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    York, PA
    Posts
    3,226
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 205 Times in 54 Posts
    Yeah seriously fozzy...even if you were using a program like dreamweaver who wouldn't upload their website and then check everything... Man that is so lame... If I sent out my portfolio to game companies I would be checking my site every five minutes to make sure it didn't go down or go over the bandwidth limit...etc... Seems awfully suspicious.

  31. #30
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    355
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    this thread is still going
    Perfect Kay

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Thrift store steal!
    By Syle in forum Artist Lounge
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: May 4th, 2012, 02:47 PM
  2. I steal my art supplies
    By CatConvention in forum Art Discussions
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: March 27th, 2009, 06:01 PM
  3. Replies: 13
    Last Post: March 13th, 2006, 06:08 AM
  4. How can you steal a brain???
    By Fozzybar in forum Artist Lounge
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: September 7th, 2005, 06:41 AM
  5. Replies: 48
    Last Post: October 2nd, 2003, 01:25 PM

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Designed by The Coldest Water, we build the coldest best water bottles, ice packs and best pillows.