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    I haven't replied here for a while. You're really pushing yourself for better hatching. I like the way you showed volume of the face by hatching in this one: http://www..com/files/hdd6/...002_detail.jpg. It's much better than "zigzag" shading beacause there is more control over direction of lines .
    The painted seascape looks strange beacause the land is viewed from the top and the horizon line is on low level. It makes impression that all elements are on different planes. I think you should try to work on perspective.
    Overall, good progress. Keep it up.

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    oooh that's a cool brush!!! nice sketches there, my sketches at work are always just making fun of my fellow coworkers ^^ i noticed that your sketches in this style always are really thick in terms of line quality, maybe more variety in the line thickness could be cool too



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    Thanks, hp...
    The brush is part of Barontieri's set of custom PS brushes.... he offers them for download on his website... http://www.barontieri.com/atelier.htm

    I've been using a "Calligraphy brush" in Painter, and I'm still not comfortable with the pressure sensitivity of my Graphire, I try to get different line widths, but it seems to be really thin or blobby... I keep wanting to experiment and see if an Intuos is better...

    And, I finished the pen drawing of the rose... and tried adding some rough color in Painter... ugh...



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    i would desaturate the green of the stem and then i think the picture would be better

    anyways, about the sensitivity, i really don't think buying an intuos is going to solve the problem. have you tried brush tracking in painter? i change it based on whether i'm doing a "pencil" work or a painting because i draw really lightly and paint pretty hard...you can try adjusting it accordingly too so your lines have more/less weight to them.



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    whoa nice rose! that pen one is looking great man, came out really well imo; great shading and hatching usage. I like the painter one alot as well.. the rose head (I think that's what the petal parts called?) came out really nice, and all I'd think is maybe to shade the stem a bit more color wise; I agree with hp as well on the desaturation part. great stuff though man keep it up!

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    hey glikster!

    For the last month or so, I've been using a 4x5 grapphire2 since my 4x5 intuous2 has some issues. The sensitivity difference is actually quite noticable along with the resolution. However, the end results are still the same but you may have to tweak the settings a bit and use undo occasionally (a line may be too dark or harder to control when using a graphire).

    And intuous is also x2 the price of a graphire.

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    Your sketches show alot of bulk and mass. you have a good concept of showing mass.

    "Watching television is like taking black spray paint to your third eye." -Bill Hicks

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    OK...


    Hp, thanks for the tip with brush tracking... I never really knew what to do with that before! I tried desaturating the stem and played a little with it more...
    You know I'm just kidding with you in your SB, right? I'm married with a kid...


    Onir, thanks!

    Machzero, yeah, the price is why I got the Graphire in the first place... one day I'll get an Intuos...

    pickles, thanks! it took me a lot of time and studies to get to the point where I remember and am capable of showing mass in my drawings.. just look at the first two pages of my SB here... people even crit me about lack of mass...although I think I deleted most of the REALLY bad ones...
    I still always have to work at it...

    Oh yeah, I have some more sketchpages I have to take pics of, so until then...

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    good stuff, man, looks like the desaturation worked; made the rose head and everything stand out more to me. I like the way you did the background as well, the texture and that watercolor look really work well with the piece. good stuff man can't wait to see more!

    cute picture of your daughter

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    lol i know you're jk ^^

    that's an adorable pic btw, how old?

    the desaturation worked IMO...



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    Onir, thanks!

    Hp,Thanks!
    She's just about 6 months old.

    I agree, it helped a lot, thanks!

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    hey glikster~! thankfully looks like the cute kid takes after the mom, eh? heheh *kidding* At the crawling terror stage shortly followed by the walking horror, yet?

    Tried the 'ol right side of brain thingy in regard to your rose drawing? As in don't think of drawing a "petal", or a "stem". Just eyeball the lines/forms and put it down. The largest initial rose pic looks the best to me. The forms on the upper left side looks particularly good there... only suggested by shadow and light.

    You're right about the cost of an intuos2. I just ordered a replacement intous2 pen... a brand new graphire4 4x5 is only slightly more expensive (not in the US so I pay roughly 4x more). But having an intuos2 sitting useless on my desk is pissing me off.

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    Thanks, mach. You're darn right she takes after her mother... thank god for that... not quite crawling yet, but she manages to turn herself over, and around and from one end of the crib to the other over night...

    I guess that's what I did... I hafta do that more often... here's a study of an orange I brought with me to work, in Painter...
    How the hell do you make the skin?!


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    oo I like that orange, the way you rendered it and the purple you used looks great man; nice touch with the background being the forum's color, fits really well. the little skin details do look a little strange, but I'm with you on painting details like that; can't seem to figure out how to

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    for some reason your orange isn't showing up for me... i checked at work and also at home.

    try linking it again in imageshack?



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    For some reason I cant view most of em.
    but I like the studies ,
    will have to check back once it I see more

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    I think something happened to ....

    Damn... am I gonna have to re-upload them?

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    the muscle studies look pretty sweet.

    as for the orange, maybe add a little grain to it or some kind of texture photo so it isn't so smooth.

    i hope you didn't go back and reupload all of them...



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    yo glikster,

    the reflected yellow on the underside of the orange is great. Dig the purple shadows too (my lack of colour theory knowledge won't even let me try that... heh).

    but the yellow looks so intense, it should prolly show up a bit on the underside of the orange on the brighter side. And the orange show up a bit on the yellow surface too, very subtle if the surface is matte, more if it's reflective.

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    Hey Glikster, nice orange there. I might suggest using some sort of speckle or spatter brush, something which makes lots of nice randomly placed dots, and use that for an indication of texture rather than a flat-out rendering of it. Actually you could probably get away with a lot just by adding speckled highlights. But then I'm lazy...join the dark side, be lazy!

    If you're continuing with the detail texture, then make the pits a little bigger and rounder, because they only start flattening out around the edges. Or at least that's what google images tells me...

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    Wow. Lots of updates since my last visit. Your anatomy studies look very good. With every new update they are more loose.
    In orange painting I think you could add few close to white dot's for highlights and darken the shadows more.

    Cheers.

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    coool very nice muscle studies; makin me want to start doin muscular studies again (which I probably should ).. keep up the good work!

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    Hey, thanks for the comment awhile ago, sorry I havn't responded until now.

    I really enjoy your Bridgeman studies alot. And most of your pencil work is pretty nice.

    I think my biggest crit would be to start pushing your colors. The rose feels really flat because there's only reds. Try using some blues/green to shade, and some yellows to do highlights. This could be done on the orange as well.

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    update!!!!



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    I still need to take pics/scans of my recent real stuff....
    I started using Rob's brushes in Painter and he has a really nice pencil brush.
    quickie from the front of my Bridgman.


    Does anyone else have problems with the forums? I tried replying to hp's SB and it doesn't take.

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    oi glikster, you got 4 replies in a row on HP's thread. Replies go in, but they don't show. Only when you post, they show up in the topic review below. Some database rollback a few days ago, could have corrupted that thread.

    i recall seeing a rather book at a bookstore recently. Lotsa anatomical studies, with "overly expressive" muscles and poses. I'm guessing it could be a bridgman since your studies are resembling the book greatly (good or bad, eh? heheh).

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    I tried one of Don Seegmiller's brushes for the texture....

    EDIT
    I tried tightening the shadows...




    Damn!! I hate computers!! I still can't view any of my recent posts in her thread...

    Well, I'll take that as a compliment that you recognized that I was doing Bridgman studies...
    I would definitely suggest it. Sure, it's exagerrated, but so is Hogarth and they are both excellent sources of learning how the body is put together. Then you just tone it down...

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    oooh ok thank god it isn't just me...i pm'ed jason about the problem.

    looks better...maybe try defining and strengthening the shadows a bit more.



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    Hey yo yo!

    Good hatching action going on here, I like most of the facial studies and bodies with the hatching. The rose is way cool! Anatomy studies are on all of our agenda, wouldn´t do bad to you too though...

    I like really much the orange, I like the effort you´ve put into it. I guess it is a good thing to study one thing thoroughly and learn things from that. At least in this case it seems it has payed off. Only thing there is the shadow color being all purplish... It wouldn´t of course be that similar on an orange orange and a yellow table. Something there shows me there is just a tad too much of that purple. The texture rocks, you really nailed that part! Nothing to crit there. ´

    All in all in the few color pieces that you have I enjoy the variation of color. Often it is too visible how ppl color their works with only one color - a red ball is a RED ball. It makes the picture so much lively when there is variation in the saturation and color. The first one on this page shoes this really well, I like the desaturated parts on his face a lot!

    It keeps the good work up, or else it will get the hose again!

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