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    Cow C.O.W. - #005: Symbiotic predators

    C.O.W. - #005: Symbiotic predators


    Round #005

    Topic:
    Symbiotic predators
    (Symbiotic: a cooperative relationship between 2 or more).

    Deadline:
    06.03.2005





    - for any questions or help go here:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37512

    note: The deadline won't be EXACTLY after a week...it can last up to 24 hours more, i am human and have to work also, you know

    Post your creature for this week!
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    What do you mean?

    1. symbiotic creatures of the Predators (from the movies)?
    2. A creature that uses symbotes as prey?
    3. Symbiotes that use other bodies to do it's bidding?
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    I think you can certainly incorporate schwartzenegger's Predator into your concept if that's what you wanna do, but the topic is referring to an original creature design depicting predatory creatures in a symbiotic relationship. Whether that means a creature that uses symbiotes as prey, or a symbiote doing the other body's bidding, or whatever...that's up to you to decide. The topics of these COWs seem to always be intentionally vague...It's a chance to be creative and for some to not have to take their marching orders from an art director for a change!

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    Nothing from the movie "Predator" please, forget it!

    The topic means two different kind of creatures living symbiotically together...and they are predators, that's all!

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    lol ok... I was just making sure! I didn't want to draw anything from that movie.
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    Isnt that a parasite? just curious :-/ not being a smart ass
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    Hello , this is my firt post, but i have been watching all the activitis in this forum from about a month ^_^, so im glad to be here and etc etc....


    Well about symbiosis, well symbiosis means an interaction between two organisms living together ( quite simple really, but moust people undestand symbiosisn from the spider man comics with venom and carnage characters), well symbiosis is much more simple than that, and is much more open than you think as well, theres 3 types of symbiosis

    parasitism: when the assosiation is destructive to one of the organisms.

    mutualism: the assosiation is good to bouth organisms.

    commensalism: when the assositaion is goot to one organism and neutral to the other.

    Acording to this, the easyest example of symbiosis is a man and his dog, that intercation can be undestood as all 3 classifications, but it doest count with organims of the same species ^_^.

    Well, i hope you find this info ussefull, it would be a shame to make a great drawing and find out it has nothing to do with symbiosis. good luck to you all

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    I think you should all part of doing good concepts is learning things, so go read a book!
    interpert the subject any way you like, even if it includes the movie predetor.
    so yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamsta
    I think you should all part of doing good concepts is learning things, so go read a book!
    interpert the subject any way you like, even if it includes the movie predetor.
    so yeah!
    Yes, reading is important, so READ what i wrote a few posts earlier...you can do an entry with a fucking predator from the movie, but it's actually not the topic!!! So it's not recommended to do this...

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    some examples, to clarify:

    A creature that lives inside, and is a part of, a tree and uses it to disguise itself to passers by, enabling it to be a silent predator.

    Another example may be a tick-like parasite that attaches to a dog or wolf and turns it into a rabid, frenzied killing machine.

    Technically, symbiotic implies that the creature is *attached* to its relation. However it seems in the context of this topic, that is not necissary. Its a challenging topic, but once you get the meaning of it there are a variety of ideas. Good luck to you all.

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    So, is it safe to assume that both creatures don't have to be predators? Just so long as the symbiosis is predatory in some nature, right?
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    correct.

    it can be a victim-predator symbiote, a predator-predator symbiote or a predator-host symbiote

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    Actually as i already said, a simbiote is not nessesariry attached to the host, actually attached simbiotes are the less numerous amoung all the symbiotes, actually it seems nobody saw what i wrote earlier , is incorret to assume that all symbiotes are the same as the venom from spider man, or that all symiotes are like ticks etc, all organism interaction in a constant relationtip in the same place ARE symbiotes, ticks are symbiotes, but also intestinal bacterias, fleas, acares, and humans, and that just for the dog, moust know examples of symbiosis are for example the clown fish and the anemony ( the clown fish hides in the anemony because of the pattern of the scales, and alows the clown fish to ambush smaller fishs, leaving the rest to the anemony, and also protecting it from those small fishs), the moust interesting type of symbiosis is actually the mutualism, casue it works perfect for bouth organisms in that interaction, let imagine ( in this case) that a predator has enought strenght to crush a skull of an animal bigger than he his, but waht happens if his emviroment changes..? lets say his natural pray begins to clim trees, and lets say theres a smaller predator that actually doesnt have his natural pray anymore, but it can climbs trees as well, so this two predators could work toguether to survive, one will handle getting the pray down from the tree, and the other will kill the pray, then bouth will feed from it...


    To undestand symbiosis better you may see it as an assosiation with other organisms, in wish one or bouth get what they want, in the case of parasitism only one will get what he wants, and by getting it ill cause harm to the host, but in my opinion that is to boring, is just picking a predator and choose any other animal you want, and make that animal feed or use the other one, is much more interesting to make a symbiosis that works ok for bouth.

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    but for the purpose of this exercise we need to make sure people wont just draw a shaman with a pet, or a monster and a baby or something. They should be somehow physically, genetically or otherwise 'attached' or 'dependant'.... not necissarily attached.... but the symbiosis SHOULD BE CLEAR and the subject of the painting.

    Most importantly the symbiosis should be of a predatory nature... not just two predators who also happen to be symbiotes. The symbiosis should form the basis of their predatory nature.

    i think we all get it now? yes? no?

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