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    Hi! i'm new here! a Dragon illustration to share...

    Hi!...i've just found out about Conceptart.org, and it's absolutely great that I can share and learn stuff with so many people of the same interest!

    I've got a drawing here, sketched with pencil, and later coloured in photoshop.
    Took me quite some time, but i've fallen in love with the PC since then.

    Look forward to hear suggestions and critiques !Hi! i'm new here! a Dragon illustration to share...

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    It's very well done.

    I think you have got a good sense of mood with your colours and lighting. However if anything detracts from the picture it's the background...I guess you used the filter/render/differnece clouds function...which although gives you a background, you could enhance the image by trying to paint some clouds, some thick dark clouds...or alternatively excentuate the perspective and have the ground underneath as if looking from above the dragon and past it you can see the ground or a castle far off underneath from which the dragon has flown up from.

    Looks good though. Afraid I can't offer anything about technique, as I too am just getting to grips with photoshop.

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    hey, thanks for the feedback!
    yeah, regarding the background, i admit it was lazy way of creating a background. I'll work on a new background (most probably like what you've sugggested, a faraway castle looking from high above).

    thanks again...and really excited to get a response! wow!

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    Another idea might be to add some kind of subtle fire, or steam coming from it's mouth, like it's breathing hard after a battle, and then you could add some fire and smoke to the buildings below...to suggest some kind of struggle.

    Hope to see the new image...keep up the good work.

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    Dragon's not bad at all, nor the human figure.

    The hazy clouds over parts of the dragon also seem a little intense, perticuarly the far wing. Adding in my blues to the skin would do better in pushing it back without the use of the clouds. Since you hint at a pretty strong light sorce with his hind leg, if you do keep the haze, at least make it less dull colorwise.

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    ah! teh clouds are teh pain!

    please please please...never use clouds filter as a background again

    in all seriousness, even a slightly off white/tan color (think along the lines of CA color scheme) would be better than the clouds. The dragon is very good, and the knight in his clutches as well. But the filtered BG reeks of halfassed art. There are several very good "painting digital clouds" tutorials around on the net, if i can find some time before/after class ill see if i can dig some up and post them here.

    so the dragon = B+ / A

    background = D

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    Here's one:
    http://www.optidigit.com/stevens/cloudtut.html

    EDIT:
    One more:
    http://www.santharia.com/workshop/ph...p_drawing3.htm

    Great dragon by the way. His(?) back looks a little funky with those plates but it's a really nice piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubik
    Here's one:
    http://www.optidigit.com/stevens/cloudtut.html

    EDIT:
    One more:
    http://www.santharia.com/workshop/ph...p_drawing3.htm

    Great dragon by the way. His(?) back looks a little funky with those plates but it's a really nice piece.

    elo!

    thanks alot guys for the feedback. Cubik, thanks for the tutorials, i'll look at it definately!
    i'll change the background when i have time, so far i've been pretty tied up with my product design work.

    now i realize how lazy i am in using the clouds filter.

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    latest refinement on dragon drawing

    Hi! i'm new here! a Dragon illustration to share... hi guys!

    i've finally did some refinements on the dragon drawing.
    instead of putting a faraway castle or some landscape, i've decided to make the dragon sit real close on a castle, to get some feeling of a screen captured image.
    c n c away!!

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    Love the background, very nice improvement !

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    Although the dragon itself looks really good, the backround, the fire in his mouth and the knight do not. Maybe you should spend the same effort on those areas. You could also do a paintover for the dragon to hide the linart and readjust some colors (Most of your colors are to saturated and you use alot of reds and yellow but rarly the colors between).

    The composition and the colors are need to be refined too cause the backround and the knight don't fit into your colorsceme very well and they are taking the viewer away from your cool dragon.

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    The difference between the linework on the dragon and the rest of the setting is making them feel like completely seperate elements.

    I'd say go in with a fine point pencil tool, and outline the castle the same way you have for the dragon, to help unify them more. It doesn't have to be outlined in full, just bring in areas of more refined brick work.

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    mm yes, nice background indeed. one suggestion i have is that the fire looks too PS airbrushed.. add some texture in there and a few darker values. also, if you wanted to go a step further you could get rid of the black linework around the whole dragon. then, you should fade the highlights on the castle a little more because it takes the viewer's eye away from the main subject, which is the dragon. the highlights wouldn't be that white on the castle anyways because i think you're trying to make the main light source the fire, am i right?
    anyways, keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snotboebel
    Love the background, very nice improvement !

    to Snotboebel:
    - thanks for the comment, appreciate it! very happy to hear that..



    to Zaknafain:
    - about the color of the dragon, ya i admit it's too saturated cos i used a lot of dodge and burn tool to create the highlights..i can add more colors in between.


    to Skulldog:
    - the dragon itself is colored using multiply layers, therefore i retained a lot of sketch lines underneath. however, the backgroung was done entirely on photoshop, thats why the style doesn't blend in...i will try to add more pencil lines for the background.

    to Odds:
    - actually, i myself is a bit lost on where the main light source is from. it was supposed to be from the sky, but when i added the fire and burning castle below, the lights kinda mized-up.

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    Fantastic improvement, well, just a couple more crits tho

    the background
    : make it darker to give the illusion of distance, and get rid of the "copy-and-pasted-in" look

    the fire: you should enhance the flames more, ade some blue at the bottom to give the look real heat, and wheres the light shining on the dragons face, the man, or the dragons hand? just give the those parts some of the fires heat and light. thats all i have to say

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    Hi!! Nice work.. It's fantastic!! I love your work!! Keep it up..

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    looking good. the dragon doesnt seem to blend in with the environment like it belong. it looks more like it was copy/pasted there. also i think the perspective work on the bridge is a bit off. you just nee dto put some more hours in it and i think it will come out awesome bro.

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    Tridracops

    Hey, DAMN COOL!!! I see this sucker clocking in at around 4.5 tons, with titanium melting fire. Totally seeing everything here, very nice. Good rhytmn on the scales, and a strong Tridracops pose!!
    One idea that could boost this to 11, take a look at the shoulder area where the wings attatch.. Think of a double shoulder setup to carry those massive wings. A cat, with a fruit bat on its shoulders.

    keep it rockin'

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    check out the dragon on this cool Blockbuster Commercial.


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    and click on the movie with the dragon in it.

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    hi...thank for comments:

    to Rebecca: good idea on the bluish flame to increase heat. i'll try it!

    to jona_DR: thanks for the encoragement!

    to dadamafia: ya, ur rite..the bridge perspective is out...ouch...couldn't see it myself

    to chawdog: hehe...i'll add more power muscles to the dragon...rock on!!!

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    updated dragon drawing!!

    hi everyone!!!

    Hi! i'm new here! a Dragon illustration to share...
    i've modify the dragon drawing a bit:
    - made the background darker
    - added some reflections of the dragon's flame on the knight and surrounding area
    - tweaked the perspective of the bridge
    - erased some pencil lines on the dragon, style-wise to blend it more with the background
    - made the dragon's flame to have some bluish-flame at the edges

    i really feel that i'm learning a lot as read your comments, things that i wouldn't realize myself.
    looking forward to hear feedbacks!

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    it would make a bit more sense, and look really cool if there were a bunch of soldiers on the bridge, and the dragon happened to pick one off.
    you can imply this really easily without drawing a million guys.
    otherwise, it looks like the castle is gaurded by one ill-fated knight and no one seems to notice that there is a ten ton dragon perched on their home.
    it would also give the dragon something to look at, really, right now he is staring off into space.
    here is a real suck version of what im talking about:
    Hi! i'm new here! a Dragon illustration to share...

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    The fire's not making sense to me at the moment. With the perspective the way it is, it looks like he's very far away up on the top of that tower. With the fire moving as it is, it looks like he's gigantic and burning the door down.

    I'm also not too partial to the dragon's head design. It's well drawn, but screams dinosaur a little too strongly for my liking.

    Overall it's some good stuff!

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    just finish a new robot drawing!

    hi!

    to DSillustration: hehe..thanks for the idea!! i'll add some knights on the bridge soon.

    to Tully: i'm really into dinosaurs, i guess that's why the dino look kinda filtered into my dragon...i'm lost as to how to create a realistic looking fire.
    the dragon is supposed to be far away from the castle background, but it seems to give the wrong impression..


    anyway, i think the dragon art is about to finish soon, and so i did a new robot drawing:

    Hi! i'm new here! a Dragon illustration to share...

    it's a mech-robot resting in a garage/storeroom place. i wanted to show a strong light from above the mech, as if a roof door has just opened up.
    i'm trying to add some title , just to see if it can look like some book cover.

    any comments for this?..

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    I don't care for the text. Get a better font or paint it yourself and do not EVER use a filter. Ever ever ever. Ok? Ever.

    As to the actual painting, you're showing some really nice depth on the top cockpit part, but it kinda falls apart the further down you go. It'd also look a lot better if we could see the whole thing. Cutting it off doesn't do any good for the painting at all. For a really good, simple compositional technique called Informal Subdivision, go to www.saveloomis.org and go to page 36 in Creative Illustration. Learn it. Use it. You'd not believe how such an easy thing can help your painting.

    Also some cool colours in the shadows would help immensely.

    --Oh, and I'm a big dinosaur fan too But dragons aren't dinosaurs!

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    hi riclim,
    your dragon look really convincing and the structure is really nice.
    i still remember that the first drawing of this dragon....the first dragon's texture has been erased as you proggress.now, the dragon's skin become very PHOTOSHOP. i missed the feel of dragon SKIN.
    the castle look very nice.how do you create the bricks? its painstaking if we have to draw it one by one.....
    i like to see more of your works!! great effort!!


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