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    Best school for an aspiring concept artist?

    Hi,

    I am a senior in highschool applying for art schools. After seeing the works of successful and talented artsts like Feng Zhu, Doug Chiang , I knew for sure i wanted to be like them.

    So my question is this, what is the second best art school that could prepare me for the field of concept/movie-making art? One that taeches solid drawing and visualization skills, rather than how to design chairs and cups.

    I know that Art Center is the top school for many areas of Art/Design, but realistically, my highschool portfolio does not compare to others who are much older and have taken numerous Saturday/Night classes there. I'd like to start my career in this industry gradually, rather diving head in.

    I am looking at Pratt, RISD, and Carnegie Mellon, looking to major in Product/Industrial Design. Are those good schools?

    Thanks for you time.
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    Well, you could always apply and just see where you stand. Worst case scenario is they tell you you're not good enough and you'll have to go to a community college to brush up on your skills.

    All of the schools you listed are more than reputable; they've been around awhile. I'd still encourage anyone wanting to apply to a particular school to actually visit the campus and see the work on the walls. You should be intimidated somewhat. You want that kind of competition.

    And if you want to attend Doug Chiang's old alma mater, check us out at the College for Creative Studies...

    http://www.ccscad.edu/flashHomepage.cfm

    It's also the place where Marc Gabbana, Ed Natividad & Tani Kunitake attended as well. Our acceptance policy isn't any easier than any other art school but again, try applying and see what happens. You just might show enough promise you could be entered "conditionally"- a sort of probation upon entering.

    Good luck with your choices.
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    Thanks for the great information Storyboard Dave.

    I am definately going to apply where i can, especially CCS now.

    BTW, are you apart of CCS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunes
    Thanks for the great information Storyboard Dave.

    I am definately going to apply where i can, especially CCS now.

    BTW, are you apart of CCS?
    Yes, I'm one of the adjunct faculty members in the Illustration department. I would also have you look at OTHER places as well. Why limit yourself? See what else is out there... after all it is about YOUR education.

    If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
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    =)

    I meant to say i was going to apply everywhere i can. I am also looking into engineering if you were refering to the type of field, rather than colleges.

    Will you be willing to review a prospective student's portfolio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunes
    =)

    I meant to say i was going to apply everywhere i can. I am also looking into engineering if you were refering to the type of field, rather than colleges.

    Will you be willing to review a prospective student's portfolio?
    Wow...engineering?! That's a almost too intellectual for me now! Unfortunately I don't know much about schooling for that. But I'd still apply the same curriculum for picking out one of those schools as well. Go there and look at the program first hand and not just rely on catalogs & websites.

    As far as looking at portfolios, sure! I do it all the time! And there are also plenty of other friendly folks here on CA willing to look as well.
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    Hee Hee

    i have an unfinished portfolio in .PDF format. can i email it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunes
    Hee Hee

    i have an unfinished portfolio in .PDF format. can i email it?
    By all means. I'd be more than willing to look.
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    Don't go to Pratt. You'll regret it for the rest of your life. Also, if you think you're work may not be good enough for Art Center, think again, they are accepting a lot more people now that the are expanding. There are of course positives and negatives to this, but thats a different conversation. I can say this however even with my limited experiences with college, you will most likely find nothing as hard core as Art Center.
    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed, The world in arms is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from an iron cross."

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    Care to elaborate about Pratt?

    Heh, I was really interested in that school for a minute or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helium Macaroni
    Don't go to Pratt. You'll regret it for the rest of your life. Also, if you think you're work may not be good enough for Art Center, think again, they are accepting a lot more people now that the are expanding. There are of course positives and negatives to this, but thats a different conversation. I can say this however even with my limited experiences with college, you will most likely find nothing as hard core as Art Center.
    I know that obviously Pratt didn't work for you but what if it's right for someone else?? I wouldn't discourage anyone from looking at any particular place- it just might be right for them. Thanks for being honest in saying that it is from your perspective though.

    I guess that's why I'm always touting people look into certain programs for themselves. It's obvious all of these art schools are in business. What works for one person might not work for another. If someone attends a place and they have a horrible experience or find out that it's just not for them, move on. I feel sad for the students that stay at one place and bitch & moan about it- why not move on and stop complaining about how bad it is?? Find what works for you.
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    Apply EVERYWHERE! You may change your mind later on and its always good to have options to choose rather than just having one school to go to. I know you're already taking this path.


    Unless of course you have your heart set on that ONE school (like I did) then by all means apply for just one.
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    Try this, IM most anyone who has gone to Pratt. Try Mike Corriero here on the forums, or a whole slew of people I went to school with. Pratt is nearly useless. Subpar facilties, bitter instructors, serious lack of foundation training, extreme lack of business connections or employment placement abilities, extremely expensive tuition for very limited returns. I can go on. Not only was it not a good school for me, but considering how much entertainment design is based on foundation skills (accurate drawing, painting, etc) Pratt simply has no edge. It is a much more fine arts based college or editorial based illustration with a New York edge. If you like that, then by all means go there. Their illustration department in that regard his almost unmatched due to the cultural epicenter that it resides in; New York. However, considering the entertainment industry is mostly (generalization) on the West Coast, and NYC is more of a hub for fine art, editorial, or more avant garde (sp?) types of art, it simply isn't equipped to be competative for a career in production art. While at Pratt I simply did not know of any alternative until a teacher clued me in that I was on the wrong coast, but I moved on. I'm at Art Center now. It blows Pratt away in almost every single regard.

    Being more specific, Pratts infastructure is horribly outdated, no department talks to another, nothing is networked, there are very annoying proceedures to go through when dealing with everything from dropping/adding a class to with financial aide. Thier systems are rusty and the people are rude. Long lines are a constant sight around registration time, or survey, or anything else, when at other colleges, those times have the availability of online registration, or other such services. the buildings are delapidated and have been "under refurbishment" for years. Dorms are disgusting and have pest problems, the classes have no A/C and if you know what summer is like in NYC then you know that's a problem. Instructors take a much more conceptual (not related to "concept art") approach to art and in my experience don't even consider teaching anything oriented towards a job in the entertainment industry. What Pratt does have however is easy access to New York, which is what the biggest benifit was for me. I love that city. In the end however, it just comes down to logic. Pratt is an expensive school that is not geared towards the entertainment industry and is not in a location where it can have easy access or contact to those businesses. Art Center is just as expensive but on the other hand is highly professional, highly rigorous, very foundation oriented, has specific entertainment deaign programs, has teachers involved in the entertainment industry, and perhaps most importantly, is located in extreme proximity to the entertainment industry. I don't want to be a cheerleader but that's just the breakdown.
    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed, The world in arms is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from an iron cross."

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