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    Red face

    nice horns

    its good portrait man..

    u just need the zygomatic bone be indicated.. u can indicate all facial features with just one line.. or u can indicate them with simple 2d shapes.. these 2d shapes only appear 2d but they are drawn in 3d but it doesnt matter this time

    try to find what lines u need to indicate any simplified head feature..when u know this.. u only draw simplified but u learn how to draw photo realistic heads

    i just satrted heads again 2 here at work.. when iam home ill draw more head.. i can show u how to simplifie then..

    when u look at ur face... u have lotsa lines.. like one for the jaw and for chin or so... each of these lines represent * i love tha word* one line from a cube.. U choose which one it is.. i used that technique to learn how to put stuff into perspective.. when u know how to allign stuff in perspective.. u can start alligning stuff so.. that it looks like faces.. or u allign ur stuff and u may get some cars or sexy chicks.. whatever u want..

    this is ur mind matrix.. and u will become like neo

    keep drawing man

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    don't give up on the paints though. you were improving quickly.
    It's just that you picked just about the hardest thing to learn to paint (portraits) to try and learn on.

    Do really boring exercises, paint areas of flat washes, do graded washes, do colour swatches of mixes of all of your paints 2 at a time until you know exactly how the colours mix. The basics will always move you along faster.

    Watercolours are frustrating to learn, especially by yourself, but they look so fantastic and unique that I think it's worth the effort.

    Craig

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    I've noticed improvement... I myself ain't that good at watercolor painting, so I'd be of no help...

    I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected, enough to step aside and, weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...
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    hey thank u for ur comment heres somethin i worked on for 3 hours i learned a lot doin it
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    how can i get those smooth shading portraits without using a stump

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    update

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    hey cud anybody plz tell me how can i get that smooth look do i have to use a stump?

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    stump, finger, Q tip, etc. will all work.
    Or you can just shade in very carefully, try using side of your pencil, and don't make lines. harder and slower to do though.

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    thank u craig d
    u know am tryin to get the look of fredflickstones suff i like it a lot

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    omarpac: HEy your showing nice improvement. The side of the pencil will give you much more control but as Craig says it takes longer... a lot longer and one really has to build it up slowly layer by layer to get the real good result.

    About the watecolours you could start experimenting with using a sponge they give you a differnt variety of possibilities. Try e.g and test using sponge with water and soften/erase watecolour thats already laid down and put some toiletpaper/ clean rag on the pic afterward to soak some of it up. or just try and paint with the sponge. Anyway it given me a wider range and it might work for you too.
    PS: warning read my signature

    My sketchbook flawed to the max page 5
    Ps:Hope you understand my English.
    Remember my advices taste best with a grain of salt.
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    thank u mind flaw for ur reply
    i just discovered that i was using gouache and not watercolors
    stupid i know anyway i will get water colour tubes and start 2day wit em

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    i wanna draw like the guyz from watts attelier so if any one of u guys is reading this cud u drop in some hints and help plz
    heres somethin i did
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    [IMG][/IMG]
    another self portrait crits are welcome

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    plz be brutal but in a constructive way as am tryin to learn

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    As I believe you noted on the side, your woman has proportion issues.
    Try again but shorten the head a bit, lower the breasts down, shorten arms and make equal lengths,(her left arm is close to normal) widen her hips (a lot, like 150%).

    Dig up a proportion chart of the body and compare to that.

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    yea u are right craig d
    i will do this again
    i know the problems but i dont know how to resolve it, any ideas?

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    i just saw it now the the heights is not right it cleared up now

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    [IMG][/IMG]
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    here are animals i did in watercolor tell me what u think

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    that is a water color painting.

    you want to learn to be a better watercolorist ? look up as much John Singer Sargent as possible and study that shit as a text book. the man had and has had no competition in the field. singularly, he represents the highest form of water color as a medium.

    study him.

    i did. a month of copying his paintings can teach you as much as a year of practice.

    "the highest art is to have no art, the highest form: no form." - bruce lee
    more art, music, and writings by yours truly

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    it really all depends on what you value. Personally , LittleEric, I think that watercolor looks nasty, the style is cheap to me , even when well done..



    this is also watercolors... just because its diffrent doesn't mean its of little or no value

    Don andrews work in my opinion, is far superior to a style like that



    His paintings are vivid, very well done, and use the great textures and blending of colors that watercolor is so good at achieving.

    he represents the highest form of water color as a medium.
    Well, that seems more like opinion then fact. I guess if your very fond of lightly painted realistic things like that ,.....

    Im not trying to say he isnt tallented, but you can do alot with watercolors. It seems like a waste of time painting like he does.

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    [IMG][/IMG]
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    new watercolors tell me what u think

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    Talking

    c00l thing

    the camel.. looks stoned somehow O_o .. very c000l

    besides value studies.. u can create easy perspective with contrasts.. because dark colors are seen as shadow and white colors as light.. our eye mostly focuses on bright spots.. because our consciousness think thers nothing to see in the darnkess

    light and shadow always flow across the surface..

    do some studies for volume and perspectives
    .. when u know about the volume and surface.. u just have to place ur color*value*contrasts in the right spot.. and then u can paint like these guys...
    don andrews
    john singer

    the main differenre between u and these dudes : they know becuase of experience.. ..
    they know where to place their brush and paint... : experience is the base of knowledge

    when u do analysis and draw pencil studies.. well .. do pencil stuff IN ORDER to get the idea and feeling about volume and surface.. when u know these.. u also know how to place ur brush and paint,, each brush storke indicates the surface.. .. u need to KNOW.. SEE and BE AWARE of your surfaces flow.. ..

    pencil studies ! its just what u need.. pencils.. and patience

    its same when u try to draw from memory.. or draw without pencil outlines..just with colors*contrasts*values..... its all a learning process.. we cant do it just because we want to.. but we can learn to do it

    maybe try paint more stylized.. with hard contrasts.. like these old black and white photos .. only few colors to get better feeling for surface and how light and shadow feel..partial soft transition between colors but hard edges otherwise ....look at the sky.. clouds have lotsa diffrent details.. sometimes u got hard edges.. and no transition and sometimes u get all smooth all mixed soft transition only.. see how the dark and light spots + light direction create the volume .. dunno :/

    i wrote some more about how to ..volume surface stuff etc here

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...t=34660&page=2
    check it out..

    cya on msn


    take your time !

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    thanks for ur reply sideshowbob
    any other comments?

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    [IMG][/IMG]
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    those are my first attempts with gouache
    tell me what u think plz
    and if u use gouache cud u tell me tips on mixing it with water or basically how to use them
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    this panda is in watercolors
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    not good likeness but i like the lipz

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    Sorry cant see the bottom pics to help you, but from the first, i'm sorry to say, but the better thing to improve in painting, in gouache or watercolor, is to learn drawing, values, with regular pencil.

    I m sorry if it sounds bad, or mean, but i really think so, you'll learn to see the shapes of the shadows and light, which you try to paint,

    cya

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