you need thinner, preferably odorless mineral spirits, turpenoid and gamsol are some reputible kinds. ii will usually wash my brushes by swishing them around in a container of mineral spirits, to get the bulk of the paint off the hairs. ill then wait for them to dry 3-7 days, and then wash 'em with dishwashing liquid. dawn or palmolive work splendidly.this system has worked for me for years. i hope this helps.
it is THE BEST way to learn how to paint, in my opinion. i use tricks ive learned painting with oils that i use for digital paintings all the time. theres something to be said about a medium that has remained relatively unchanged in 500-600 years. there's something to that, a time honored tradition. do velasquez, sargeant, and rockwell proud, its our time now, dude.
the only thing is...now don't worry el coro...i'm not asking you to give me a process or anything. but i hear you are supposed to block in shapes then let dry, bring out smaller, lighter shapes, then let dry, repeat, repeat, repeat, then do highlights and low and behold....one year later you have a painting.
i've also heard that you don't have to let the sh#t dry at all.
i'm a little confused. but seriously coro, i'm into learning it.
oil moves faster than anything. i can bang out HUGE paintings in a few hours.... drying time is something that can be worked around. i work wet in wet, meaning i usually do the whole thing in one shot. if it is a seriously complex piece, i will work toward "tie off points" such as i wont stop in the middle of an arm, but finish it before i go to bed, that way theres nocolor matching the next morning... as far as oil taking a long time to dry, it does take days for a thick, impastoed painting to dry, but i paint relatively thin, so most of my layers are dry within 24 hours...the truth is it is a hassle. and it takes YEARS to get your process down. it boils down to literally thousands of variables, how fast certain colors dry,knowing pigment strength and color mixing, and brush work, oh brush work! but im telling you, its worth learning. it keeps me sane. the last thing i want to do when i get home from work is sit on a computer...speaking of which, i'm starting a large oil painting tonight, so i gotta go. good luck, and maybe i can post a step by step example for you or something.....-c36
and maybe i can post a step by step example for you or something.....-c36
Sh$t man...i LOVE this place. i can honestly tell you that this site alone has pushed me further in my goals. i don't know what it is but...it just seems that the interaction w/the pros here just...kicks...A$$. thx for the replies coro...and when you have time...keep'em coming. i'll tell you what-i have been doing a self-portrait a day(in the guest section), this weekend i'll break out those oils and make my first attempt. these are the only paintings i have done so.... maybe you could give me some feedback in this thread. i'm to the point now where i don't care if i have to eat dirt to achieve better skills/understanding/and grace with art. once again thanks man. it's much appreciated!
Last edited by keyth; August 16th, 2002 at 04:21 AM.
I'll have my eyes on this! It's damn too early for me (oils? I barely can hold a pencil) but I surely wanna see this. If you start it - move it to the "Tutorial Sector" - conceptart.org member demos - u know. the empy zone
Don, you're the man. great tutorial(badass painting as well). your rendering of texture is superb. oblio, i work at shaba games, a little developer up in saualito, ca. we do extreme sports games for activision. keyth, keep pushing. i like the self portraits. you ot skills, man. develop them. you'll exceed even your own expectations...-c36
thanks for the kind words el coro!!! i have one more question before i begin. i read up a little on that wet on wet stuff. i am wondering if you can give me a little tip on how to prepare my paints...i mix it w/thinner right? what ratio do you recommend? thanks sooooo much!!!!
Wet on wet is a technique that is great for speed painting. The name is deceptive though. The paint is wet when it comes from the tube and generally it is a good idea to not add anything to your paint. Now we all know that this is not completely possible as sometimes the paint from the tube is rather stiff.
Do not mix your paint with thinner...
Mixing with thinner only weakens the the paints film integrity. If you want to use something to make the paint easier to brush, my recommendation is Liquin, or one of the several mediums manufactured by the Gamblin paint company. They are alkyd based mediums and will help the paint maintain a strong bond with itself and the ground.
Do not mix so much in the paint that it becomes soupy. Just a very little added with the brush tothe edge of where you are mixing the color you are using.
Now if you want to glaze, that is another subject.