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    Is this possible???

    Portrait

    I'm not exactly saying I don't believe it, but it is tough to imagine. He says it's with graphite and conte. My first thought was that it was a retouched photo, but I know there are people out there who can do incredible things. I still can't imagine how long it would take me to get to this level of ability. Besides the edges, there isn't anything to indicate this is drawn.

    Be sure to click through to the close-up.


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    judging by his other work, yes.

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    Yeah, his other stuff is the only thing that made me think it. But none of them have this unreal level of detail. Really, this isn't a call-out thread, more a matter of pointing out something amazing.

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    doesnt look to un beleivable to me, ive seen other stuff like that before.
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    yeah, you can see the strokes on the close up, especially in certain transition areas.

    Good work. Let's break his fingers.

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    it's alright, if you can copy images and blend things, it's not as difficult as some may think, just takes a while.

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    It is. Some artists are just nutcases this way. Others aren't so concerned about detail.

    I guess it depends on what you're looking for in a drawing, or what you hope to get out of when you're drawing....he's really good no doubt.
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    Im not questing this guys talent - it eclipses me by oooh...a few light years =) But if your going to spend ages making a drawing look like a photograph, why not just take a picture instead? Its like the debate thats going on about 3d at the moment: sure you can probably make a completly convincing person but wouldnt it be alot quicker (and cheaper) to just film someone?

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    oh trev...jetpack42 once asked the same thing...

    Originally Posted by jetpack42:
    "why wouldn't you just take a picture? I don't get it.... "

    Answer by slash:
    "Probably the same reason why people climb mountains instead of renting a helicopter to get to the top."

    I just love the quote from slash, i don't know if he quoted someone else or if it was his own sentence, but i love it...

    happened in this thread:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31160

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    http://www.deviantart.com/view/4933881/


    "Why don’t I just take a picture? Why bother spending hours meticulously drawing what seems a camera can capture in seconds?

    It’s by keen observation that allows me to understand the person I am rendering; I could not get that knowledge from a photo alone. Although I use photography as a tool, it has many limitations; I need to see way beyond the photo image, and recreate the person’s unique anatomy to capture the life missing in the photo. When you see a rendering, be it very tight or loose, you are confronted with the artist personal vision and language. This process becomes the ultimate collaboration between the artist and the viewer. When the artists mind, eye and hand leaves a lasting mark, viewers of the work start their own investigation thereby recreating the process. Photo-realism itself does not interest me in the least. Realism does, details and textures do, ultimately seeing what others fail to see, until they see it in my work.

    A good portrait drawing conveys the presence of the individual, in order to accomplish this task; I need to be in total control, technically, conceptually and emotionally. For this reason I will rarely accept a portrait commission. Not only do I need to find the individual visually interesting, but I have to be emotionally moved by this person. Drawing and draftsmanship are life-long passions that are heightened by a love of intense observation. By training myself to "see", I am able to celebrate the tiniest nuances that make up the human face. The complex markings, patterns and textures act as a visual journal, giving clues to the sitter's life experiences. Not one shape on the human face is "more important" than another shape. The way light falls on the eye is as important as the structure of the eye itself. The position of the major features give no more of a hint at a persons likeness than the folds in the skin which form patterns that tell of the persons movements and temperament. The way the hair is worn, moisture in the eyes or on the lips, and the way light and shadow play with each other are all clues to the likeness. I long to present the viewer with a unique observation, my emotional reactions and to unravel the clues presented to me in a powerfully composed graphite drawing.

    I find a good “rendering” is a drawing of what the person sees, I find “a work of art” is drawing what others don’t see."

    http://www.nimra.deviantart.com

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    but I know there are people out there who can do incredible things.
    Like Shawn Ye? http://www.deviantart.com/view/8580654/

    http://www.shawnye.com/Main.html

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    Wow...it makes me feel depressed...I'm with you Oregano, let's break his damn fingers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan.v.D.
    I find a good “rendering” is a drawing of what the person sees, I find “a work of art” is drawing what others don’t see."

    http://www.nimra.deviantart.com
    Dan, thank you for taking the time to talk about how you work, and the reasonings behind your motivations. I didn't see that you had posted here until this morning.

    I love "Occaisional Angel". There's a lot of humor in the piece, which really brings it to life for me.

    I, for one, would love to hear more about your process, how you select someone for a portrait (since you mentioned that you don't accept commissions), and anything else you would be willing to share.

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    Some people really do draw too much. But that's what I say all the time. I hear people dissing realism saying oh just take a picture. Forgot the quote that leonardo da vinci made but even he never really went for retarded straight every detail realism without him putting his own little things in there. In a lot of his stuff trees and mountains don't usually twist and turn and have colors like that. But oh well. Dumbs up to those people. Be glad they aren't fighting for your jobs. Well maybe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregano
    Dan, thank you for taking the time to talk about how you work, and the reasonings behind your motivations. I didn't see that you had posted here until this morning.

    I love "Occaisional Angel". There's a lot of humor in the piece, which really brings it to life for me.

    I, for one, would love to hear more about your process, how you select someone for a portrait (since you mentioned that you don't accept commissions), and anything else you would be willing to share.

    Regards,
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    OH NO W8!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
    it´s not my words or works
    i´m so sorry
    it´s all property of armin mersmann aka nimra at deviantart

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    if you want to get to know something about his progress check his gallery at deviantart. he has posted several wips. it´s crazy he works in little patches that are pretty finished. he works up to 300 hours on single graphite portrait.

    here´s another link http://arminmersmann.artroof.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan.v.D.
    OH NO W8!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
    it´s not my words or works
    i´m so sorry
    it´s all property of armin mersmann aka nimra at deviantart
    Okay. We're gonna break your fingers on principal then

    No worries, thanks for the clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipMcgee
    Mmm, no doubt he's got some great rendering skills, but the character itself feels flunky, and the design is just .. not my thing.

    To stay on topic, ye, that is a drawing, the closeup makes it pretty visible, superb rendering though.

    EDIT: checked out Shawn's site. I much prefer his colour ilustrations of his furry graphite's. It's like a day/night thing almost. Either way, this thread is not about him. Carry on, private.
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