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    Adien's book - updated 03/17/07

    Wow... been a long time since I have posted anything... Haven't really improved much since last time I don't think, in fact, haven't drawn all that much in the last 6 months.

    Started joining the Vancouver Sketch group couple weeks ago (here ). Those peeps are great! Thanks to those I've met so far... Spartan, Rubygenesis, Warhead82, Tak, Goflamesgo, Mr Frost, happy to have met you all, and you can bet I'll be showing up on a regular basis! (If i missed anyone, gimme a kick next sunday ) Any Vancouver artists out there, you should pop in, it's a great group, and I've learned alot already.

    anyways, here's some drawings I did out of a The Flash comic. First page is a over a few days, second page was started at the sketch group on Nov. 7, then worked on more that night... umm.. might tackle it again for the head and hands, maybe not

    Adien's book - updated 03/17/07

    Adien's book - updated 03/17/07

    peace

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    I've attached this image to show next to my thread in the forum list.

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    Ok, yea, I don't post very often... I have been drawing though. I'm usually just too busy to scan. Happened to scan this to get advice from someone tho, so thought I'd throw it up here too.

    No reference, started off as just a doodle really. lots of anatomy problems. He used to have a face, but then I moved his head and neck and haven't got around to drawing it back in. His right forearm is incorrectly placed I think.. which is why he doesn't have a right hand.

    working on hand studies right now, then will move on to faces. I'm finding these to be my biggest problems right now.. then back to full figure studies.


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    Cool sketchs, I just don't understand that the flash with holes in all body ... but that is really cool , I will go to vancouver next year it's possible join new menbers on the group? .. keep working.. hugs
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    Thanks Leonard. That sketch was actually of the anti-Flash, I think they are ports to plug in tubes etc, but I forget exactly.

    Anyways, I'm starting to be able to pull off the odd sketch of a persons body without ref, but I can't draw heads or hands at all.

    Here's a sketch page of loomis studies. I started drawing the man's head, got frustrated and bored, so gave him a body. erased the face so much I actually erased a hole in the paper haha. I think I messed up his right (our left) shoulder. his head is a total failure imo

    Girls face sorta happened around the eye, outta my head, so pretty happy about that I guess. That eye and the one below are studies from loomis.

    The line down the middle of the page is the seam of the book.

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    another doodle... no ref, was trying to work out how to draw a hand with no ref, got bored and frustrated and gave the hand a body haha. :-D

    Adien's book - updated 03/17/07


    Does anyone have any suggestions for books that teach how to draw hands? I have Drawing Dynamic Hands by Burne Hogarth, and it's a great book, just feels like it's jumping past the basics..

    Thanks for looking!

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    You've got some good stuff going on, I'm weak on the same ares too. But as references for human form go, including hands, I would suggest Bridgmans complete guide to drawing from life. Only one critique, In the head studies drawing, the guy's left pec should meet up at the bottom of the shoulder muscle and the top of the bicep.

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    This was a request.. no reference, learned alot doing this, although I don't think I like it.

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    /edit ugh.. went to sleep, looked at this again, can't believe I missed so many proportion issues.. /edit

    /edit2 sorta fixed, on to the next drawing! /edit2
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    my first time ever painting, trying to remember what little I've read about light... (just the pants for now. )

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    second time painting ever.. value study (from ref) using intuos3 in PS. I messed up her nose a bit.. I wanted to keep going, but I need to sleep. Might come back to it tho

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    Soo.. things to work on.. widen the nose a bit.. learn how to blend.. paint in the direction of the contour of the face, not against (ie the side of the nose).. hmm think the mouth is off a bit too, not sure if it looks like it's attached to the face.
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    hmm think the mouth is off a bit too, not sure if it looks like it's attached to the face.
    Yep the mouth is a bit small, but widen the nostril wings before you fix the mouth. Also don't forget the shorten the screen right eyebrow, and it wouldn't hurt to define the screen left eye a bit more. I'm also thinking the screen left eye is a bit too large, and it's slightly lower than the screen right one. You're getting there though, the wacom made a huge difference.
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    Nice start! Are you using digital to paint?

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    Hogarth and Loomis aren't enough, checkout that book I told you about, I'm not bullshitting you. Heard about it from briggsy@ashtons and that guy knows his stuff. The thing with drawing heads is you need to have the skull down reasonably well before attempting them. Each bone of the head creates a stationary landmark that simplifies measuring, proportion etc. Check out Loomis's "Successful Drawing" too, goes over the basics, I haven't finished it yet but it's helped me too understand light and shade. Light and shade are a tool to understand form.
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    well, here's a picture to show that I am still drawing. My scanner isn't working right now, and I only just got around to getting batteries for my camera.

    my career is very busy right now, drawing is by necessity becoming even more of a part time hobby for me, at least for the next year or so (I plan to quit this job and go to school in a couple years, no matter what they offer me to stay haha). But I still try to plug away at it when I get some free time.

    This is copied (and enlarged) from a Batman comic, I forget which one. The smaller drawing in the bottom is a panel from Teen Titans. Pencil is there to show scale.

    Adien's book - updated 03/17/07

    and finished...
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    -... really nice stuff. Especially last one is very good. You should finish it. I hope it will be really good stuff in your sketchbook... Keep posting after finish it, GOODLUCK...
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    Haven't posted in awhile, due to no scanner, but managed to take a decent photo of one recent sketchpage, so thought I would post it..

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    I've started going through the Structure of Man video lessons by Riven Phoenix:

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79482

    I've ordered his DVDs, and can't wait to get them. I've just finished lesson 10, trying to "invent" the human head for myself as he teaches. The results are encouraging, as the human head always gave me alot of difficulty (just scroll up to see what I mean haha)

    Here's a page which are the result of lessons 8-10. In lesson 8, he shows you that the box you start out with needs to be tilted to have the head sitting level, so I've tried to do that with each one after, although he doesn't in the lessons yet:

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    Nice work Adien! I'm seeing a huge improvement in your work. Looks like the videos are helping. It's really nice to see the progress you're making.
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    Ah an update! And working on some front views now too, Cool! Looking good! Is that a goatee on the first one? Still kind of small on the ears......you'll have to work on that. Really nice to see you drawing more Adien!

    Does anyone else ever post in here?
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    Does anyone else ever post in here?
    nope, guess it's an uninteresting sketchbook. That's ok, I get some feedback at cgtalk.

    more Structure of Man studies. The second one is a map for myself. I keep forgetting some of the reference points of the front view, and can't tell exactly by looking at my small drawings. So I did a big one with a ruler so I didn't have to keep going back to the videos to review.

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    You're getting there. I'm seeing lots of improvements and the fact that you are able to pick out your own mistakes is half the battle. The nose and mouths......have really improved.......now you gotta work on those ears...they're still looking a bit to small to me. Nice to see you're still working at it!
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    I recommend checking out loomis, hogarth and bridgeman to see how they break down the head into planes to define form. I think your work is improving - keep up the effort!

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    Hi Softocean,

    Thanks for the recommendation! I'll be moving on to the planes at some point definitely. probably once I finish going through these videos, I'm finding they're helping quite a bit.

    the figure in the second page is completely unreferenced. It started off being a quick side view of the skull to refresh my memory, and I got carried away. I know, he's missing his hands. I started off having the same proportion issues as usual, then I went back and reviewed a proportion map I drew out in the first few of Riven's videos, and that straightened me out. The drawings beside him are brow studies from tsom videos. you don't find out he's teaching you the structure of the brow until you're finished that last one in perspective.
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    Soooooooo what gives here young man? I haven't seen any sketches come up for a loooonnnng time...........Use it or lose it!
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