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    Progress thread from the start.

    Attachment 2309556Attachment 2309556First stuff I drew since high school.
    Some are exercises from books Iím learning to draw from.

    im editing this to put a non super ugly drawing on top to make it look better in the sketchbook window:)
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    Hello!

    I like what you have so far. I think your sense of light and dark values is really good. For the first drawing, perhaps you could do some more rendering to make the values more seamless. In your second image, perhaps you could push the values even further for some more contrast! ^_^ I like your anatomy studies too. Anatomy is really hard, I struggle with it a lot.
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    Hey thanks man.
    i wish I was as far along to claim any knowledge on anatomy.
    The last drawing was made using sightsize method copying a drawing.
    The two females were eyeballed.
    I didnít know how to measure with the females.
    With the 2 Bargue plates I had just started comprehending how to measure and chip away at the image with envelope and further lines tightening the envelope.
    It may sound a little rediculous but once I started getting a better grasp on measuring and blocking in big to small I got really excited and decided to jump into a figure drawing, which you see with the dude.
    anyway, thanks for your reply and the crit.
    The bowl may be redrawn at some point, as will the females most definitely.
    Ill probably even paint Pandora eventually.

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    Still working.
    Ill probably finish it but not sure how good it will be due to skill with charcoal and damage to paper
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    Im still trying to figure out the image posting thing.
    So still working on it.
    Damaged the paper.
    will probably finish it but it might not look good.
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    Worked a little bit more.
    mark, erase, mark erase.
    My hatching is atrocious and my values have degenerated into lines that actually cause tears to flow out of my eyeballs.
    Parts of the paper are fuzzy so they polish the ends of my charcoal stick so thatís nice.
    But hey, itís all good.
    I still donít know how to post images properly on this thread.
    I upload them in ďmanage attachments ď but then...clueless.
    Oh hey, looks like I did it.
    not all is lost.
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    I see no real improvement on the figure. It feels as you lacked a little.confidence and never be bashful about your wips. And with charcoal it very forgiving.

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    Nice work. You'll already way better than I will ever be, and you have hardly even started. Looks like you'll make yourself a nice little career. :-)

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    The bowl is drawing from life.
    the sphere is from imagination.
    the figures and Bargue plate faces are from photo references.
    So all in all not that impressive.

    I think maybe with some people online today there are different goals that require different approaches.

    I am looking to becoming an oil painter.
    Not as a career. Not as a job. (Although if I learn and produce work that sells and I can live off it that would be great).
    You guys that are looking to become illustrators or animators have an additional requirement on top of art fundamentals......speed.
    That is a thing I am not going for at all.
    I can take all the time in the world on one drawing (something I am trying to become patient enough to do) to make it perfect.

    Also, I am looking to learn the fundamentals of drawing from life.

    Yes, eventually, once I get better at measuring and stuff, I will look to become faster so I can draw from a model and stuff, but it is unfair to compare my approach to your approach.
    I know how discouraging drawing can be at times bro, but that is what drawing is.
    We give ourselves a set of problems to solve, over and over again.

    So dude, don’t even look at other people’s stuff and compare to you and get discouraged.
    Especially someone that doesn’t value speed at all at this point.

    Ive gone through several sketchbooks in the past week and yours was one of them.
    Just keep drawing and doing excercises and stuff will click.

    Like one poster said, maybe slow down and take a little bit more time on each line.

    You have two eyes, two hands, a pencil, paper.
    The only thing separating you from a da Vinci drawing is what is in your brain.
    So just take your time and think about the problems you are giving yourself.
    I don’t know, but maybe first you need to realize that symbol drawing and drawing what you see are two separate things.
    And realize that you gotta be able to draw real life stuff before you can simplify it into a comic or whatever.

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    Still confused about posting images
    Hope it comes thru.
    i decided to draw the same bowl again.
    WIP.
    Imma get it right this time.
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    Did a little more.
    Got impatient and used a bunch of compressed charcoal to outline the forms.
    Crushed the paper and in the process messed up my elipses.
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    Probably finished.
    I think I will avoid charcoal paper for a while.
    Maybe charcoal too
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    Last night, after ďcompletingĒ this drawing, I didnít blow the excess dust off before spraying with fixative.
    instant darkening and killing much of the detail.
    Today I went at it with an eraser and then a white conte crayon.
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    Stepping in the ring

    Just got this dude in the mail.
    My next model
    Tried a quick comparative measured rough lay in ( I think thatís what itís called) getting the size and big shape angles.
    Went great till certain shapes met other shapes towards the middle.
    Might try sight size but I kinda dread that work.
    Whatever way I go I gotta slow down.
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    Awesome stuff here so far. Definitely think youre going in the right direction if you want to become an oil painter. Do you want to partially create paintings from your imagination though? Or do you want to create paintings that are always based on a reference or still life/portrait for instance? Because the measuring method is great for creating paintings as such, however if wont teach you the actual anatomy of the figure and the muscles.bones that lie under the skin, or the perspective knowledge that is needed to invent your own space. I'm not saying to never use the measuring tool again, Im saying that you should know where you want to go and what tools work to get there. Improving your rendering skills and learning to "see" by using the measuring method is completely valid, just later on you might want to study anatomy. Awesome start to your sketchbook though with some already really impressive life drawing, look forward where you manage to take this, good luck!

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    Looks like we're on a similar track! Keep at it! your beginnings look promising, and I want to see some studies of that bust, which looks great. Where did you get it?

    I encourage you to take some cues from the bargue drawings. Nail the statement of flat, clear shapes of shadow and light first. Avoid smudginess and messiness with the charcoal.

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    Hey thanks Dennis.
    Yeah I bought some anatomy books/apps to get into in the future. All of this seems super overwhelming to me right now so I am just concentrating on a few things right now.
    I kinda know the direction I want to go and life drawing and anatomy both figure into it most definitely.
    I have kinda looked into the atelier systematic approach and am starting to learn sight size and will buckle down in the next few weeks and go thru a plate or two for real this time and then go from there.
    Thanks again.

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    Hey thanks Joe.
    I gotta discipline myself more as you can tell with the Bargue plates.
    The statue I got from amazon....
    https://www.amazon.com/Design-Toscan...68457099&psc=1

    and it’s pretty awesome.
    Im going to draw it sight size and see how that turns out. Gonna use a pencil this time.
    Then I will probably go to the first Bargue plate and do the eyes over again and
    pretend im shelling out money to get yelled at about complete accuracy.
    Thanks for the flat shapes reminder.

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    Yeah I quit on the plaster cast cause I got lost in some of the forms and then discouraged.
    im starting from the beginning with Bargue eyes.
    eyeballing this time.
    not perfect but at least I can see a little better.
    gonna do the ears then partial face then the profile face again then go to a hand I think.
    ahhhhhh, so frustrating!
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    You could try something a lot simpler. If you still want a cast, then you can get David's eye. You can also try drawing an egg or a teacup.

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    Yeah I plan on getting the David face parts soon.
    This was actually my first thought when I conceded defeat on the bust.
    Thanks man

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    Finished.
    Some are way off but Iím seeing better.
    last eye was done in a hurry so I could go to the store.
    Gonna do #2, finish #3, do #4, then not sure, maybe the hand plate.
    But first Iím gonna attempt a simple shape still life.
    But now imma read some stuff.
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    Ahhhh, I just did an overlay comparison.
    All of them are off really bad.
    Well, gonna eyeball and then measure next plate.
    I am not excited for that.

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    Did a quick (in between Bargue plate) still life.
    i think imma do it again and get the shapes right and not fool around.
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    Same ofjects arranged slightly different.
    WIP
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    Good stuff! Make sure you keep doing these still lifes between the Bargue plates!
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    Hey thanks man. Yeah I’m really learning a lot right now.
    its so funny, right before I looked at this thread I was thinking that I’ve been putting Bargue off for a while.
    gotta get back to it.
    Thanks again.

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    Drawn bad, trying to correct.

    And having some fun
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    So I got the skull in the mail and got some Stonehenge paper and am trying to draw.
    I gotta say this has been sooooo frustrating.
    Im not fishing for anything but I have no outlet besides online.
    It took me forever to find ANY concrete point/shape in the drawing that gave me any confidence to concretely work from.

    I kinda gave up and decided to work with what I came up with which I hope will turn out believable........but at this point Iím not even checking, as a matter of fact I have decided to turn a bling eye to the thing and move on to rendering.
    Lets see how it turns out.
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    And now Iím going to sleep.
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