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    Welcome!!!

    Sorry it's me again (where is a Keyth when you need one?)

    I've tried to be late and skip the thread opening but... i can't stay too much away from here so.. here I go again.
    If you are new around.. dig a little in the depths of the Gues SP area - and if find the way back... try a SP and post it.
    USE YOUR HEAD.. the very right way!

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    Hello people

    to introduce myself:
    that's me.

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    Yay! 6 more weeks of winter! :grumble:

    went overboard with the lines on this one
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    Patton you are hilaaaarious! You dont give yourself enough credit those self portraits are great. I like the 1st and the 4th ones the best. The other seem just abit too flat in contrast and perspective, but the colors and proportions are quite good in those 2.

    Rusty besides what you said about proportions i love the merging of biological and mechanical you do on your nose and lips

    Blackhawk two very expressive SPs, your use of color is very emotional

    Thats creepy Coriat, why not add some colour?

    Oblio thats really simple and effective

    Looks good Bibi welcome

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    reeves: I did physics in my first year of uni along with computing as I had to take a science course so I know just ho hard physics gets at uni . I have done some particually nasty theory coursesin my time but since most of the theory courses I dislike use some form of discreet maths in I always look on that as the basis of all evil .

    bibi5000: That looks good welcome to the board

    ummo: Rockin colors .

    Here is another quicky at 100% opacity. Next I will have to get out of the habit of painting over my mistakes and get my marks right first time
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    Benzo,thanks for not letting me gett away with things .but yeah i already pointed out that i stuffed up the proportions,because i was focusing to much on detail i totally forgot about proportion,..i tryed to justify it by adding 2 eyes on the left side to try an balance it out,but it screwed it up even more..lol..

    Ummo i really like that sketchty one,very cool,kinda the style i do alot...other ones great aswell..thanks,ya ive been inspired by Geiger recently,....

    wellcome bibi5000,.nice first entry.

    Oi Oblio ya havent painted up that one i wanted to see yet.hurry up ;p....i like the one you started this thread on,nice and simple,yet its effective..maybe just work the eyes a tad more.Its just looking a little lifeless,try and give the eyes that spark of life,which is oh so important..yeah,b a while till i get a Tablet,All my cash goes into board,food,shit like that,but im slowly getting there ..

    Hurry up Lionel i need yer secrets..;P...nice SP,no way i couldve done one like that..

    Blackhawk,ya,try and finish those man,specially that second one,i like where that ones heading,...Your probably as lazy as me ,i lose concentration after an hour or so.but try and finish it anyway..

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    here we go

    I've been doing my SPs mostly digitally lately. I HATED the last ones (check the end of the January thread... my post there is horrid)... I'm not exactly happy with this; but I'm not as unhappy as I was before...
    I just read the replies last night, and Oblio pointed out about using perspective in my SPs, especially since I move my head some... I never really thought of that. I think I know what my big problem is: to keep myself lookin at myself from the same position, I try to make a 'visual note' in my head about the angle. For instance, I look at how far my eyebrow is from hairline. Only problem is (which I never really thought about before) was that I can tilt my head forward and backwards, but my eyebrow will still be the same length from my hairline. Soooo... if I only move my head back a little each time I look, after an hour i could have moved it into a totally different POV.
    SOOOOO.. I just noticed that last night. Let's hope I can keep my freakin head in the same position, and think of everything in perspective, instead of just shapes!


    Oh yeah, Oblio: "Where is a Keyth when you need one"
    Is Keyth's real name Keith? cuuz, that's my name... :-D

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    Oblio: You're improving so much. I dunno why I like this about your latest SP, but, I like how the perpective on yor nose is applied. And the shape of your lips and chin area are really nice... But how about rendering them eyes some more?
    Just a suggestion, eh

    Bibi: Nice. I like the colors in this. The only thing that bugs me is the ears, they seem like they're placed really close to the head... know what I mean? Your ears might be shaped like that, though. So, check for yourself and see.

    Ummo: thanks unfortunately I couldn't see your stuff; something about exceeding your traffic quota limit for the day... I'll check back tomorrow.

    Lionel: 100% opacity, eh? Did you happen to be inspired by a Mr. Hibbs? heh Everything here looks pretty good...proportions look good: the forehead might be a tad long, but I didn't notice it until I looked for awhile. I think the colors are good, too. Keep it up, yo.

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    ummo: Thanks! Same to you! I like the second one better: It's the look in your eyes.

    Lionel: Thanks again! I must have seen hundreds of Selfportraits of you at sijun.

    Rusty: Thanks! (I will have to look into a dictionary for a new word for "Thank you")

    Patton Art: Really? I thought about painting over the whole image with a more "oily" style because I don't like the colors, but I didn't have the time. So I will leave this as it is.
    Yes, my ears are really small, but they're not that scrumbled.
    I like your expressive version of your ear, btw.

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    Rusty: Sorry I tried to do a setp by step thing tonight but I just couldn't paint. Probably just to tired

    Patton Art: I was definatly inspired a little by jibbs . That sp is good though try to not focus on the details and get the big planes of color right. Using a bigger brush may well help

    bibi5000: There are even more of my self portrats her than at sijun

    Just couldn't get one done today
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    Here's mine, I'm very slow with self portraits so hopefully I'll do them a little more regularly this month. I tried not to rush this one like i usually do and went for a different perspective. Please be hard on it especially the hair. I hate the hair!

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    bibi: i'm probly not the right person to welcome you but...welcome! and great sp

    ummo: cool sp's, especially the first, i love the sketchiness

    Lionel: I was looking at your stuff last month and I can see a ton of improvement over a couple months ago when i last checked. I'm not too crazy about the 100% opacity paintings although i'm sure you have a reason for them

    Patton: I didn't think your digital sp's from last month were that bad but this one does look better. Especially the right eye, which boggles my mind

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    (where is a Keyth when you need one?)
    here ya go.



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    Talking been awhile

    im still kicking, to everyone who noticed my absence. i still havent missed any

    keyth-great to see your face as usual, the red patch under the nose is working great, you can really whip these out and still solid as hell. how long did that one take you?

    nottabird-i dont have a problem with the hair so much as the overall perspective of the head. it suffers from what ive been calling 'composite view', as in, two or more views in the same head (what patton was mentioning above). you can tell if you cover the right side or left side using the nose as dividing line. this is something i struggled with for a looong time before realizing what the cause was. as i gain experience i realize more and more how important it is that two things remain constant; the artists view of the drawing surface, and the subject itself. when doing self portraits you control both at once, making it that much easier to turn a small twist of the head into a disfigured face only tip i can give is either pick easier poses or block in the whole head first thing.

    lionel-howdy, glad to see ive inspired someone else give the opaque painting a try second one (lines) is interesting but a bit rushed

    patton-about bloody time you started posting :p

    ummo-lined one has a nice sense of form, and i dont think you went overboard. the second one reminds me of vaseck klouda, good sense of light.

    bibi5000-welcome aboard. youre off to a good start. the eyes seem a bit large, and the neck a bit small to support the head. otherwise great, keep at it.

    ive been trying some different stuff this month, especially tonight's, which is from an alternate SP idea list that pattonart and i put together when we started :evilbat:

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    ha - jhibbs - i've done one with long hair myself. (i plan to cut it so i've imagined i've let it grow a bit more).
    I'll pot it asap.
    Also... Rusty - i've started working on that one but after few minutes of frustration my head blood vein exploded - i had to stop.
    I've figured - while mates of mine are burning neurond in alcohool and crack i'm using pixels instead. It can become veyry dangerous. For sure it's adictive

    patton Art - (little keyth so to speak :p) - thank you for your words. I'll try to follow your advice. (i've done over 160 SP's and i think i need someone to point out things for me now.
    I'm always finding something challenging in SP's but i have also to keep working the basics. )
    Here is another tip for you (btw- you are doing REALLY REALY well) - don't try to copy what you see. Thry to draw a head and only the the mirror inspire you. Check the mirror only to see details - but the construction of the head should be done using just knowledge - axys, perspetive, etc. The when coming to proportions and features check the mirror.
    Try a VERY VERY quick one - just a rough sketch. Then.. paint it over if the proportions ans features look ok.
    as i've said it before : USE YOUR HEAD

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    (i'll post mine later, ok?)

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    Here's a new one. You see me here ready to get breakfast (cigarette+cupoftea). I have to leave for work soon, so I took a quick, rather artistic approach.

    Lionel: Really? How many have you done?

    nottabird: jhibbs is right. Try to block the whole face before you start to go into details. I draw an egg shape first and then make little markers where the nose will start and end, where the eyes will be etc. Not that I get this thing right all the time...

    keyth: I. am. impressed. How much opacy do you give your brush?

    jhibbs: Your nervous style is great. The Nose of the girl's face is strange, aw, didn't find the word in the dictionary, what that part is called. The root of the Nose (that right?) is to wide and her eyes are to far apart.
    Puh, it's really exhausting to give comments in english.



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