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    The red pants on the red background makes it hard to read. On the thumbnail it looked like she had a big leg.

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    Agreed with above - that red pant leg and the red background arre too close and hard to distinguish. Same with the other far right red Chuck Taylor. You can check this by doing a quick 'convert to black and white' and see what needs touched up then undo the B&W change.

    Major issue - reading what is going on. The placement of the right girl is way in front and low with a veritical fist. I am trying to reel back time to see how that would be a connected punch to the head, body, etc and it's not lining up.

    Second issue - small heads compared to hands, feet, arms, etc.

    Next - the girl on the left's pants.. they have a vertical seam/stripe for some reason from the front of the leg up.. but some how that carries over into her crotch... so if standing straight that wouldn't line up. Also that seam doesn't move with the bend in the fabric all over the place.

    The left girl's boobs are comically giant, round, and just stapled on.

    I don't understand why the background is blurry.. sure I can grant some leeway on the fighters to make it more "actionie", but the background? Hardly.

    Given such bright highlights - why is the background lacking any left to right shadows? Same wioth faces and hair, etc.

    Left girl's right leg looks like it connects to the left leg a half way down the thigh.
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    I don't understand why the background is blurry..
    Well, because of the wind that makes the dust go around.
    why is the background lacking any left to right shadows?
    because I'm not De Chirico, I follow another kind of ... muses lol
    it's hard to read
    well, it depends on what you mean for "reading an illustration", but if you want to read something about it search "king" and "yuri" on kof / snk wikia pages... or just play some fighting games like KOF or AOF series.

    stapled on
    well, I voluntarily gave the effect, I wanted them to pop up more in all their almighty roundness, lol.
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    On the thumbnail it looked like she had a big leg.
    well, if you zoom up a pixel-art sprite it just looks an horrible series of squares, it's not that I'm responsibles for those which judge a book by the cover, lol

    The red pants on the red background makes it hard to read.
    well, I actually decided to make King's right leg blend with the background, in opposition to the dark blue of Yuri's pants. Air wins, earth fails, hierachy, you know.
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    When he says it doesn't read, he means visually it is unclear. Visual legibility. Can we tell what things are and see clearly the important parts? It's the same as handwriting. If your handwriting is really messy we can't tell what you're trying to communicate no matter how profound it is.

    The way to test it is to look at the image at a very small size.
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    what you're trying to communicate no matter how profound it is.
    well, there is nothing that the artworks wants to communicate, it's just a fighting scene. I would have used memes if I had something to communicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emanuelepepi View Post
    [...]search "king" and "yuri" on kof / snk wikia pages... or just play some fighting games like KOF or AOF series.[...]
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    I missed these threads, you use far too much red in most of your pieces, as shadows no less and over saturate it to the point its distracting and detracts from any other color that has any vibrancy. I would tweak the motion blur to better fit the context, at the moment it sort of makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modi123 View Post
    I'll pass. I am not into niche mumble fetish sites.
    fetish? lol, no way.
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    it sort of makes no sense.
    what you mean
    I missed these threads
    which trhreads
    over saturate it
    well I like bright and saturated colors
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    Quote Originally Posted by emanuelepepi View Post
    it's just a fighting scene.
    Yeah! that's what you are trying to communicate. But of course it's not just a fighting scene. You're clearly trying to show that one woman is being knocked backward by the other's hit. That they are launched into the air. That they are in some kind of rocky landscape. And most importantly that yo wanted the breasts to "pop up more in their almighty roundness".
    All of the information contained in the image is what you are communicating. What we are telling you is that it is difficult to understand. It doesn't read well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCowan View Post
    Yeah! that's what you are trying to communicate. But of course it's not just a fighting scene. You're clearly trying to show that one woman is being knocked backward by the other's hit. That they are launched into the air. That they are in some kind of rocky landscape. And most importantly that yo wanted the breasts to "pop up more in their almighty roundness".
    All of the information contained in the image is what you are communicating. What we are telling you is that it is difficult to understand. It doesn't read well.
    So, basically, let me understand, lol, you're telling me that you acknowledge the scene, but you can't acknowledge the scene? Wow, impressive, really. Sounds a bit like " 1+1 = 1-1 " but okay. lol

    no, wait, I got an idea, I'll add some unicorns and rainbows to it so it won't be just a fighting scene but more than a fighting scene!
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    Don't get so mad at people trying to help

    So yeah, some things and stuff. Blondie's arm looks like it disappears into her leg. I know you'll say it's behind stuff, but the point is people might not necessarily see that. So you should reposition it so that the whole arm is visible and the viewer doesn't become confused. Second i would crop the image, get rid of the majority of the top and bottom, that's space not being used and I feel space not needed. It will also help a lot having less of the bottom third of the image, cos seeing all that empty sand just raises more questions. Like 'where did they jump from?' and 'where did they jump from?'. Third thing is the motion blur. You don't need the motion blur, while I'm unfamiliar with king of fighters, I've seen quite a few illustrations for various other fighting games and none I've seen have ever used it. To most it's going to look amateurish as in, you didn't know how to make it look like action was happening so you added a motion blur as a quick go to.

    Just suggestions, pls no get mad at me.

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    I acknowledge that you're clearly trying to show a fighting scene. Not that you are showing it with any success. But it's kind of obvious now that you're just trolling so I'm actually a bit embarrassed for wasting my time.

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    Don't get so mad at people trying to help
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzqSuHy8G-o
    that's space not being used and I feel space not needed.
    well, that's what I thought at first but I wanted to give the artwork more space around the main part
    I've seen quite a few illustrations for various other fighting games and none I've seen have ever used it.
    oh glad to see I've been original, then.
    To most it's going to look amateurish as in, you didn't know how to make it look like action was happening so you added a motion blur as a quick go to.
    oh and here's the final stab, thank you, lol. feel satisfied now? lol
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    Not that you are showing it with any success.
    well this pic got lotsa favs on DA, actually. so,
    You lose, good day, Sir! Nah, j/k. Trolling? Come on. That's bullsheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emanuelepepi View Post
    well this pic got lotsa favs on DA, actually.
    you win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emanuelepepi View Post
    well this pic got lotsa favs on DA, actually. so,
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    I change my mind. After reflecting on what I said I have realised I am wrong. This is a master piece. This is the highest level of Nirvana an artist can reach.
    Use shadows? Fuck it. Who needs shadows when your artistic flame burns so bright.

    Use saturated reds for the character on a saturated red background? Of course. You art plebs wouldn't understand the red, raw passion of real art.
    Every like on DA, whether a bot or not, whether fishing for likes in return or not, whether imaginary or not, is worth more than any of your advice.

    Concept art.org? More like emanuelelpepeepoepi.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by emanuelepepi View Post
    well this pic got lotsa favs on DA, actually. so,
    You lose, good day, Sir! Nah, j/k. Trolling? Come on. That's bullsheesh.
    LMAO Deviantart? HAHAHA. 95% of the images on DA is crap, the majority of those people have no idea what they're doing. There are only a few good artists there but the rest produces garbage. So what would they know about anatomy, shading, perspective, figure drawing eh? I would be embarrassed to even have an account on DA.

    About your image:

    It took me a while to figure out that they're two girls. The fist of the girl on the right is bigger than her head, the waist of the girl on the left is way to skinny for her body and her breasts are way too big. She would probably break her lower back due the weight of those watermelons. Their legs are too big too. The proportions are way off, you need to study some anatomy. The perspective of the hair of the girl on the right is wrong too.

    And the red background; looks like you've painted it with a used tampon BTW their breasts are not in a horizontal line with their spine. So if they stood right up one tit would be hanging higher than the other. Perspective issues.

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    the majority of those people have no idea what they're doing.
    I don't give a heck about your opinion on deviantart, lol
    well actually I don't give a heck about the "conceptart" vs "deviantart" whole thing. some of you "artists" (lol) take the business from genuine expression/fun to some sort of gang-war (and that's why some of you are oh so frigging gangsta! lol) *shoot*shoot*bang*bang*skit*skit* lol and that's also why some of you seem actually to like this kind of threads: 'cause it gives you the opportunity to vent your frustration, lol, like I'm your therapist and sheesh, lol

    repeat after me: Auuummmmmm , lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by verysillyhats View Post
    I change my mind. After reflecting on what I said I have realised I am wrong. This is a master piece. This is the highest level of Nirvana an artist can reach.
    Use shadows? Fuck it. Who needs shadows when your artistic flame burns so bright.

    Use saturated reds for the character on a saturated red background? Of course. You art plebs wouldn't understand the red, raw passion of real art.
    Every like on DA, whether a bot or not, whether fishing for likes in return or not, whether imaginary or not, is worth more than any of your advice.

    Concept art.org? More like emanuelelpepeepoepi.org
    You already miserably tried to use your low-level sarcasm against me, verysillyhats, give yourself some dignity lol. You're only helping me figuring out how down hard you're going with all that hate and jealousy, lol. I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggeraz View Post
    Slow clap
    *fast slap* lol
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    Let's attempt this again.

    You have some anatomy issues as others have pointed out. The main thing for me is the colour. When everything is so saturated nothing pops out. So much so that the thumbnail is a blur.

    No, thumbnails are not unimportant. If it isn't working at 10% size then its not working at 100%. That is one of the most repeated rules of concept art.

    The leg looks like part of the rock. Face anatomy is off. Fabric is the best part. You can actually do fabric to some degree. At some point you were like, hey I have to learn to do that.
    Why can't you apply that to everything and just admit to yourself that you are not a great artist. If you just want people to like your things on Deviant Art then just post there, don't post it here.

    I have seen paintings that are literally 2 year old paintings that have Favourites on DA. Hell, my work has favourites on DA. My early screenplay work had likes on forums too. It's garbage. I literally laugh out loud reading it now. People liked it so that I would like their things in return. Not because it was amazing. You need to deflate your ego and get back to working on being a great artist.

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    That is one of the most repeated rules of concept art.
    oooh interesting, tell me more about it!
    Why can't you apply that to everything and just admit to yourself that you are not a great artist. If you just want people to like your things on Deviant Art then just post there, don't post it here.
    oooh I hope one day I will become as great as you, oh great " conceptartist.orger ", lol, ooooh I got some much things to learn but thanks to you, oh my great master with almighty powers and outstanding critical ability, it will take years to accomplish your great results but oooh that's so honourable for me I can't contain the excitement. Thank you oh great master of conceptart.orgism, not even thanking you would be enough to make you understand how much thankfulness is in my grateful attitude you just have inspired me, thank you!

    It's garbage.
    oooh no, no, no, no, oh great master, don't say such thing of yourself, you're the biggest in town, the greatest of all graphic artists I've ever seen! Your humility is so inspiring it makes me cry in gratitude! Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for revealing so much about your personality which, in my humble (but not humile as yours, of course! wouldn't be so unrespectful to my great master) opinion, closer to God than anything else!

    You need to deflate your ego and get back to working on being a great artist.
    Oh now I have understood, oh my great master, my ego has been always a real weight for me, but I'm now a liberated soul and I shall live in peace with all beings and produce art, very, real, objectively undisputable art !

    Thank you again, oh my great master.

    everybody hail the great master villyseryhaist! Hail villyseryhaist, best artistist of the world!

    lol
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    I compared my work to a two year old. Apparently I am now a god.

    If a painting doesn't work zoomed out that means it probably doesn't read zoomed in. It's as if you haven't watched any videos or read any books about concept art.
    At this point I would believe that though.

    Thanks for the worship though.

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    If you dont care about our opinions, why did you post here as soon as your ban was up? This is a critique forum, you dont post here to get llamas or favorites, its to improve. I dont know if its a language thing or what for you, but the reason here seems more hostile/judgmental than deviant-art is because its not a place to share your art for publicity, its to become a better artist. Stop being a child.

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    You were banned for a month, come back, and your attitude hasn't changed at all. The ban should've been time for you to reflect on what you were doing that caused you to be banned. You're 30 years old and you act like a child. I don't even know why you post on this forum anymore. You clearly don't want the help.

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