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    C.H.O.W 430 Brimstone Monarch

    C.H.O.W 430 Brimstone Monarch

    Character of the Week #430
    Brimstone Monarch
    Deadline - Sunday, July 2nd 10PM GMT



    The Brimstone Monarch is the fiery ruler of his / her domain. But heavy hangs the head that wears the molten crown,
    and many hard decisions have to be made by rulers to keep their kingdoms safe and prosperous.

    We want you to design two versions of the Brimstone Monarch. Some games allow you to make good or bad karmic choices throughout,
    such as the “Fable” series, where despotic decisions eventually turn your character’s skin a sickly grey and horns sprout from your head, whilst benevolent choices give a healthy complexion and a halo. Or Mass effect, where paragon / renegade choices give ugly red cracks to Shepard’s skin.

    You will design a benevolent ruler: master of bright, cleansing fire, firm but fair and loved by his / her people, and another despotic version who is cruel / corrupt and glows with hellfire. Both versions must clearly be of the same character, but be depictions of two different life paths and the result of the monarch's karmic choices.


    • Male or female, humanoid
    • Wears royal robes that are made of fire / lava / magma etc, and are always burning.
    • Or body made of fire / lava / magma etc, always burning. ( No shapeless lava blobs please!)
    • Crown of molten metal.
    • Genre is fantasy.
    • Depict two versions of the monarch, one good one evil. (Must clearly be of the same underlying character)



    ​The winner of this round will have their work displayed on the C.H.O.W banner for another five rounds.


    The Rules:

    - FINALS: Must post in finals thread before the deadline
    - KNEES UP: Must show at least 3/4 of the character, from at least the knees up.
    - FRONT VIEW: Must be able to see the front of design. No back views without a front.
    - WIPS: Must show at least 2 work in progress shots with final entry.
    - READABLE: Design must be readable, as in a 3D model could be made from your image.
    - ONLY ONE: May only submit one entry. No multiple submissions.
    - 3D: Must be originally created models, excluding primitives. 3D paint-overs permitted. If you choose to use 3D in whole or in part you must show a screenshot of the model in 3D software with final entry.
    - UNACCEPTABLE: These are not permitted: Photos, photo paint-overs, photobashing, pre-made or purchased 3D
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    , rushed works/ rough sketches.
    - NEW USERS: Must submit entries by 6pm GMT on due date, due to conceptart.org's moderation process:

    - DESIGN: Design your character for the brief, not your personal fetish. Nudes without some design are not permitted.
    - READ: Read through the threads; there may be answers to your questions already posted.
    - FUN: Have fun!
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    Ok onto a very sketchy quick start. This looks like a cool brief and I haven't done one of these in ages! Will update again soon with something more concrete.

    I'm thinking something on the lines of the monarch either sacrificing themselves to increase their power (i.e using their soul and body to keep the brimstone crown's power potent and for the greater good of others) or sacrificing the bodies and souls of others to keep the brimstone crown brimming with power. I want to have it clear there's a more humanoid figure in there.


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    Hey @Naidy, interesting start, I'll be waiting for some more concrete design since the one is super sketchy and pretty interpretable, except for the face, it's a nice face mask. Now, you probably won't want my feedback anyway after you'll read the next part ).

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    Hello guys! Soooo, I should probably make a separate post on this, but I'm new here and I'm new to drawing/painting, very late in my life... (now basically, 2016-2017) I decided to switch careers (from physics & it) and go into painting/drawing, illustration, concept art... might be a poor decision, but I'm hoping that with the help friendly competitions and spread of knowledge by wonderful people like you I'll manage to make it .

    Sinix Design's vids on youtube brought me here and I really want to be able to produce some designs worthy of pieces I see around amazing portfolios... in due time. I am pretty new to drawing & especially color and painting so I'm very confident I'll not be able to produce any decent stuff any time soon ... only started exploring a bit of color painting a couple of weeks ago to so... but I hope with your guidance I'll be able to improve . Without further ado, here is my exploration phase.

    TL;DR

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    Any comments are greatly appreciated. If I'm doing things wrong please let me know.

    For this guy (so I decided to go with guy so) I've decide to go with fire since... well, I don't even want to think about how to render lava or other weird stuff... I think I started off pretty... cartoonish (naive - 1, 2) & basic or in other words... not very good , but I think at this point I like 6 & 7 most. Haven't decided on culture influence yet, I just started with random shapes & scribbles, but if I look at them I'd say that 6 has roman influences & 7 egiptian so I kind of like that idea, especially egiptian since the god of sun etc. I hope this falls in the "monarch" category. What say you?

    Thanks for reading!

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    Thanks for the feedback, Rafzvan! And anyone can give constructive feedback at any stage in their learning. A second pair of eyes can always spot sometimes pretty obvious things the painter might be missing.

    I also like the idea of an egyptian theme! Thumbnail wise, I actually like the pose of the man in his throne on 1. I find that to be the most "Monarchy" in terms of poses.

    I'd also say monarchs are also in many cases a "Symbol" They don't have to be too practical and beefy! It's a fun opportunity for garish costumes and interesting ceremonious attire. (unless that's how they retain their power over the kingdom Some monarchs are always going to be more practical than others.

    With the evil vs good aspect of your idea. Sometimes shape language can also help further your good/evil vibe. So maybe 7 is the "good" version. but his version as evil would be less symmetrical and instead of angular and squarish, more triangular and sneaky looking. It's nice to use the good and evil versions to further clash against eachother to highlight how different they are.

    Anyway! I hope that was helpful in some way, and also welcome to CA.
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    Thanks for the kind words Naidy and especially for the feedback, I think it helped me out a bit, well I'm not good enough to put it to good use yet, but feel free to share your thoughts! as you can see I went with your suggestion of having the guy sit on a throne, this would be the good guy version, I think it's easier for me to do this first and this would be the one I identify with I guess. Was experimenting with some minor costume changes here and there. I'm trying to make the guy imposing I guess, but not looking down on you, so I still want him to look kind of godly, champion-like (muscular) if I manage... as for the costume, I think I'd like to stick with the Egyptian style, where you can see a bit of skin as well since it's the typical hot-climate sensible thing to do... especially for this guy since he's burning all the time ... probably a bit unpleasant for him :D.

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    Aannnd... here I tried a more refined pass of what I think might be good enough to go to paint stage... :)

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    About your piece, I really like where it's going, only thing is I'm not sure at this point if you're giving her 4 arms?! And that arch behind her hips, at this point it looks like she's bending her hips forward to stay clear of the arch, don't know, for some reason it doesn't feel like a relaxed pose which is what I think you're going for... I guess it's still to early, cause stuff is bit undefined.

    Oh and by the way... the name is Razvan ... you know, facebook imported name, it's messed up cause I have some UTF8 symbols in there... oh well, let's see how much time will it take to change the username

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    Soooooo, if I "go advanced" for posting... it doesn't seem to post it... the other post I did with "post quick reply"... so don't know what's happening with that. I know about new members' posts being moderated and they need to be accepted, but I thought you can see "pending posts for approval" or something?!... It's strange cause the other post above was accepted immediately. That's why I'm a bit confused. Cause I was reading the CHOW FAQ and it was saying there to go to advanced and use the manager so the images won't get deleted... so if a couple of double-posts appear out of nowhere yah... I submitted multiple times

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    Alright, I'll finish up today with these two guys.

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    Thanks again Naidy, I took your advice about symmetry, yah, I can feel the boredom and evilness in this one!

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    At this point I don't know if I'll keep the line around, but I want a cleaner version so it helps me when color comes in since I'm so bad at this...

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    Sooo, I guess this is where the design led me...

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    It's a pretty terrible rendering but... here it is final or at least close to final, I hope to come back to it later and correct some stuff...

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    Here are the initial sketches I have from both forms. They will have different poses in the final piece but this pretty much gets the point across as I work more on them. Need to find and incorporate more details from the good form into the bad one to they can be identified as the same dude. I have a few ideas for that but for now thats all I have time for!



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    Hello, I'm posting some first silhouette sketches. I think I'm going for a golem/troll king.
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    razvanc-r: Firstly welcome to C.H.O.W. Brave decision switching careers too, best of luck with that. If your'e having problems with your piece I suggest actually taking a photo of someone or yourself sitting in that pose as reference. You don't have to dress up, but maybe a tablecloth or something might give you some ideas for that bit of drapery along the ground. It will give you a a better idea of the pose of your character and how shadows will fall around it, etc. (you might want to have a torch in your hand too for the glowing hand on the chair.

    Rudii20: A beard can really change how a face looks, so having one with and one without might mess up the feeling that it is the same guy, unless some other element of them is visible and kept the same. One has bare arms, maybe them both having the same birthmark / ritual tatto etc?

    xraphaelx: Looking good so far. Bottom left is my favourite.
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    Baroque inspired queen. In the game in my head she's in line for the throne while the country is at war. You have to make decisions for her survival while her family all get picked off leaving her to take the throne. If you make wiser more moral options she becomes a righteous steward of the people. If you do self serving or cruel things she turns into a deranged tyrant.
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    Here are initial sketches for my monarchs
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    Everyone's looking good!
    Rushing mine. Wanting to do that thing where the evil looking one is actually the less morally questionable of the two. The kind looking one is actually sacrificing other souls to keep herself beautiful + strong. Like some sort of religious icon using her power for bad, whilst the other's more of a martyr??? Will hopefully sort it out more tonight. :0 Name:  AAAAA.jpg
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    Will make their crowns identical to solidify the theme + will have the good one like crucified almost? idk
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    Didn't see the prompt until last night, but I think the concept is really cool, so I'm going to try a simpler coloring style than the one I've been trying to work on and see if I can get something decent done in time. These are some roughs to start out with. Ideally I'd like for the same pose to work for both good and evil versions
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    Hey @Moirae, thanks for pointing out the obviously wrong parts, I tried salvaging it a bit, hope it improved slightly, I'm gonna move on to the bad guy version now, don't think I have enough time to try and improve on rendering that much plus I think I'll pretty much go downhill if I try refining given my ability to render...

    So here it is... welp

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    edit: and yah, I noticed the floating rings )... forgot about them
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    Decided on a pose and got some tighter sketches done. I really liked volcanoes and lava while looking for inspiration pictures, and it reminded me of Pele, so I think I'm gonna take it in that direction.
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    Hello everyone!

    I am new and finally decide to jump in the adventure!
    I have see so many great art. it's intimidating,
    Please give me a lots of critics!

    For my concept I have think of a more fighting character. A character that have lived many adventure and taken many decisions that have bring it to the point he is now.
    The good side being more a protector and the bad side more a destructor.
    here it's some concept. The style and pose gonna be completely changed for the final version. the style in the sketch let me draw more quickly and without too much details which direction I wanna go in general.

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    Mine so far. Now I want to "golemnize" them further and make them more similar to each other before cleaning up.
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    Lerrine: I think the first pair are more recognisable as good and evil versions. Obviously their colour schemes and final poses would make this clearer, at the moment I wouldn't be able to confidently say which is which with the last two pairs. Also be sure to make them look like royalty and not just a high ranking warrior. Try some adding some really expensive / rare looking gear and don't rely totally on the crown to speak of their status.
    XRaphaelX: Neither character is really selling me as a monarch. Are you going to try and add some things that speak of their very high status? What visually makes them stand out from the other fire golem subjects they rule over?
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    Trying to make them look more similar, and more good/evil. Feeling the creative burn haha.
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    Looking good guys. Joined late but thought I'd post an update. The one on the right is going to be the evil one. I hope thats obvious but I think my "good" version might look too mischievous. Comments and crits always welcome.

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    Good Monarch without a crown
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    Thank you so much for the advice moirae!
    I will definitly focus on making it more royal!
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    Gotta work sunday so unsure if I will be able to finish and I need to learn how to draw at a lower res so when I reduce the size to put it here it doesn't look so blurry but oh well.

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