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    Angry Want to go to SCAD or Ringling, mom won't let me.

    All because SCAD and Ringling cost a lot. I mean, it's a good art school and only focuses on art! But my mom wants me to attend USC (University of South Carolina) all because it's cheaper and that she doesn't want me to go into debt. The only art program I'm interested in is Media Arts, but I have a feeling it won't suit my interests. I'm more into animation, concept art, illustration and sequential art/storyboarding. But USC only has the following courses in Media Arts:

    Digital Media Fundamentals
    The Moving Image
    Digital Imaging
    Sound Design
    Fiction Filmmaking
    Documentary Filmmaking
    Animation
    Video Game Design
    Media Performance
    Television Writing
    Manga and Anime
    Media Entrepreneurship

    I'm already stressed out about finding good art colleges and such and my mom being bickerish about what college to attend is making me feel down & feel that I won't be able to achieve my dream career. I was thinking about attending the Art Insititute, but they barely have any good majors I'm interested in as SCAD and Ringling does. Any ways that I can afford one of these 2 colleges?


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    Why won't you take this advice? https://noahbradley.com/dont-go-to-art-school/


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    How about consider apply to less expensive but good schools such as Mass Art. Also, some schools could give decent need based scholarships or give merit scholarships if you get good SATs. Check out Pratt Institute.

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    Art school is definitely worth it but I have to say you should consider studying in another country. I understand it would be a huge deal to move to another continent but when uni in the US can cost 20k+ a year I think it's worth considering studying at a top art school in europe for anywhere between 0-12k a year. That's what I would do, but if that's out of the question than I think going for the cheaper one might be better choice as your mom says. I am not sure how big the difference in money is but all you really need is a creative work environment in my opinion. The money you save you can use to spend on online classes with top people in the industry. The biggest mistake you're making is thinking is that you won't be able to achieve your dream career because of the college you'll pick. If you work hard and study hard you will achieve your dream career, regardless of school. Good luck! Keep your head up and work hard no matter what, if you do, you'll get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Kessel View Post
    Art school is definitely worth it but I have to say you should consider studying in another country. I understand it would be a huge deal to move to another continent but when uni in the US can cost 20k+ a year I think it's worth considering studying at a top art school in europe for anywhere between 0-12k a year.
    Art schools in Europe typically have a different focus than schools in North America, with its huge entertainment industry, so I don't think you can compare the two. Also, I think your claim that 'art school is definitely worth it' is a bit of an over-generalisation. For too many people, most art schools are a waste of time and money...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxguy View Post
    How about consider apply to less expensive but good schools such as Mass Art. Also, some schools could give decent need based scholarships or give merit scholarships if you get good SATs. Check out Pratt Institute.
    I was thnking about going to one of those schools, but my mom wants me to stay in-state or 2 hours away from home :/

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    How about thinking about it this way. There are two common models for art education: the structured, heavy coursework assignment type (like I think you would get at Ringling etc) and the sandbox model where you are given theoretical training and access to facilities with some practical training and let loose to see what you want to come up with. Different strokes for different folks. Try to find out what approach the local course has and think about what you want.

    Those big schools may have a good focus on art, but that isn't necessarily what you want. Education should teach you to think as well as draw, and these days you can probably learn to draw better from online tuts anyway.

    Give some thought to the Media Arts degree. I did Media Arts, double major in 2d animation/ video production, minor in sound design and did my theory specialisation in animation writing. Took other subjects too. The theory lectures were broad ranging and have given me an enviable command of media history across all sorts of media and genres.

    1) I was able to custom make an education that suited me perfectly and gave me the exact mix of skills I wanted, a mix which is unique and not cookie cutter.
    2) I've had to pivot and recreate my skillset several times since then in order to keep myself in employment and I believe the flexible attitude and holistic approach I got at uni was a big part of letting me do that.
    3)That subject list looks way cooler than the stuff I got to choose from. You say you want to get into anim, storyboarding, concept art and illustration? So take animation, fiction filmmaking, tv writing and manga/anime. Buff out the drawing with some online courses if you need to and you've got a much more solid education than you could get at one of those expensive entertainment art schools.

    I hope this has helped you get another perspective. Making a choice like this is difficult. Good luck.

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    I'm kind of with your mom on this one. I don't think you should go to any art school if it means you being in great debt because chances are you aren't going to even be able to make a dent in it for years. Most people do not do art full time right out of school. It's just not worth it.

    On the other hand it would be even less worth it to pay less and go to an art school that is just straight up trash. I don't know the university you mentioned but you should do some research. Look for work of recently graduated students, and look for the professor's work. If it's bad, think twice. It looks to me like USC isn't going to be good for you though because from your interests listed you really need some solid drawing classes (manga and anime doesn't count). Like Checker said you could do the Media Arts and learn drawing elsewhere, especially since the average drawing class at a university is a sham. But if you're really not interested, don't.

    Bottom line: debt is bad. There are other options.
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