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    More than just a dream

    Hi,

    I'm 23 years old and started drawing February 19th 2017. Pursuing drawing as a real career - I first had these thoughts with 18 but never acted on it. My life was going - and is still - going down a compltetely different path. Over these past 5 years I often tried to do something about that. I always told myself, that I would start to draw every day from now on, but I had no method, no real goal, nothing that would lead me to improvement because I didn't take myself and drawing seriously. After 2 weeks I always stopped, frustrated and unmotivated.

    But somehow I realized that I don't want to regret anymore. I am not the most talented, I am not the youngest and there are a lot of people out there, that are sacrificing more time and energy for this, but I want to stop dreaming about what could be and start to make it happen.

    I will use this thread to upload everything I draw. I missed three weeks so I will probably just share some examples of what I did during that time. Otherwise it would be too much.I am grateful for every advice, help or recommendation.

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    Good to see that you're working on the fundamentals. I'm 28 and only just started, I only wish I started when I was your age!!

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    Hey

    You'll feel much better when you browse the sketchbooks here. You'll find out that you're not alone in this at all!
    Reading what you wrote I was picturing myself saying that. It's just common issues we have so take it easy.

    When I read that you're 23, I felt that you're lucky although I'm 24! It's a cycle, we all look to those who are younger and more skilled artists and feel frustrated at our current position. However, it shouldn't be that way. Just be happy that you started! And you're too young to say it's late.

    This mindset you chose to start with your drawing journey is just perfect. No need to worry, let all the doubts aside, they will fade away eventually when you start improving! (which you WILL).

    I'd say nice start!
    Keep it up and best wishes. You'll get there.

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    Thanks for the reply. I really want to draw comics and manga later on but every reliable source about drawing I could find said that it is essential to know how to draw from life before doing something stylized.

    I looked up your sketchbook and it looks great! And I see that you use the exercises from drawabox too so maybe we could help each other out on that!

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    Thank you for your kind words!

    I know that it won't help me but sometimes I feel like the oldest person in the world That's ridiculous of course and there are people out there who get their drivers license with 90, so I have no excuse.

    I just hope my motivation won't fade away. Thta will be my biggest challenge.

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    Hey there! I just wanted to say that I really admire your determination to become an artist. With that kind of mindset, you'll become better in no time.
    Also, judging by your drawings I must say you're off for a great start. In fact, you're far better than I am, and I've been drawing for a while now(although not by that much, mind you)! The lines are clean, and your dedication to refine your sketches will really come in handy when you decide to do more serious art projects.
    All in all, I can't wait to see your future progress.
    Cheers!

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    From now on my daily sketches.

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    very nice start dude, just keep doing these exercises everyday no matter what and you ll progress fast. drawabox is how i started too. ill be 23 in november and i started drawing in summer so our paths are similar. i know how it feels to have this enormous amount of stress and self doubt when you start, but after a couple of months of just grinding while crying without asking questions, you will see the improvement happening and you will feel much better. and then all youll wanna do is just keep practicing cause you ll know improvement will come.
    You re at the hardest part now, no matter how bad you feel just dont give up. i like imagining the voices in my head saying "you re too old", "you re not that talanted", "you re too lazy" "you ll never compete with the guys from artcenter" as actual people that i visualise kicking in the teeth. like stupid little characters that resemble all kinds of people i dont like. its funny to say but if u actually do it, it really helps cause when these thoughts start coming you know its them lol, and then you see how stupid their dumb faces look and you just wanna leave them crawled up sobbing behind you... whispering to each other "hes crazy"-"yea i know hes a maniac hes not gonna stop" haha

    ps if you need any help or sugggestions on what to study or just chat, feel free to message me man, all the best

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    Thanks man! And your example with the voices is exactly how it is. It's just so frustrating. I make the concious decision to draw, but my subconcious is telling me it won't do any good.

    Loooking at your sketchbook I'm actually baffled. I can't believe that you made so much progress in just 9 months(ish). Obviously I'm no expert, but I don't think I could keep up with that. I don't know how much of your daily free time you spent on drawing but I need 2-3 hours for the chair alone, so whatever you did to come so far in such short time, it's awesome.

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    I noticed the perspective of the table in you latest room drawing looks off. The close side of the table top appears to be too narrow, this should be the wider part.

    Good to see you working on perspective, I should do more of these studies.
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    Yes that was a very challenging part for me. Additionally I find the tabale leg too angled and the floor tiles are not drawn in the correct perspective.

    I hope that the book of Ernest R. Norling about perspective will help me one day when I get to it.

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    I wasn't sure if the table is supposed to be against the wall, if so then it should be at the same angle as the floor tiles.

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    I'm in a sort of similar position to you -- I first started drawing when I was 15, but I didn't have the discipline to draw consistently so I would draw for a week or two and then I'd just go months without drawing... This went on for years and I was never able to really get any better, I just stagnated at the same skill level. Now I'm 20 and I've decided to put my all into it this time It's frustrating to look back and think of how much better I could be if I had done this five years ago, but we've just gotta keep pushing forward so we don't end up thinking the same thing in another five years! I think you're doing great so far, keep it up and you'll get better in no time!

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    Hi, Kk:
    You're doing the right things to start drawing. Now please go back and edit out the pages of hand exercises, PLEASE, please, please.
    Drawing is a human thing, a natural thing to do. Words didn't come from drawing, but writing did! Drawing is a conection of the hand to the mind; you wouldn't think it, but it is.I might be wrong, but I think connecting the brain to the rest of the uiverse is the only thing we do that's worthwhile: whatever we eat, we leave behind, somewhere. So it goes. so it goes.
    Your drawing of the man in a hat was only passable, but shows ability. Your drawings of the folding chair do also, and they show that you're more comfortable with "still life" than living people. That's OK...there are a lot of things to draw that are not living people.:-)
    So, hey, draw what you're comfortable with; chairs, typewriters, race cars--who the hell cares?Just draw for you. If people start asking you to draw something for them, you'll know you've "Arrived."

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    Thanks for the comment!
    But I won't "edit out" anything. This is my personal sketchbook and I decided to add everything I draw here. It's not about my favourite sketches or the ones that someone professional would consider "good", it's more like a drawing diary of some sorts and I hope that someday I will be able to look back and see for myself how far I have come.
    Also I am drawing with a "method", so every exercise I did so far was either from a book or online guides. Namely I am working through "Drawing on the right side of the brain" and "Drawabox/Peter Han", so it is not about what I want to draw right now, it's about acquiring the skills that will one day enable me to do so.
    And I believe in order to get better as an artist it is important to draw things you are not comfortable with, too. Otherwise you could not progress.
    On the other hand I would say that on my current level, which would be something like 0.1, I'm not really "comfortable" with drawing anything. I'm trying to utilize the techniques the exercises want me to use, for example focusing on negative spaces or understanding certain relations. And I find drawing something living or organic much more interesting, but again, my sketches are based on exercises.
    But it is interesting to see that you would consider still lifes more appropiate for me to draw. Personally I found them even more lacking than my hand sketches. I look at the chair and see it floating above the ground or even distorted because I lack the needed understanding of perspective and the correct use of light and shadow. So it's good to have another oppinion on this.

    I will try to improve and I hope that someday in the future, even if it takes years, I will be able to draw hands that can amaze and convince you of me and my abilities.

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    I will be able to draw hands that can amaze and convince you of me and my abilities.
    I think you're already shutting us up by your hard work and determination. Keep that up!
    Reading your comment above proved to me that you have an insight on the road you're taking.
    I totally agree with the "drawing diary". These lines and ellipses exercises should help your hand become less stiff and more relaxed while drawing.
    And the perspectives are helping you comprehend how objects in space shift shape. (I actually need to do these too...)

    Anyway, passing comment. You're doing great!
    I hope that you're still reading art books and gaining knowledge. The more things you learn, the more confidence you gain.
    ( if my advice sound obvious to you sorry about that
    imhungryicantthinkstraighnow.)

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    Just came to say I don't think you should edit anything out. It would be awesome for you to look back in a year and see the progress you've made.

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    Indeed a very strange comment from Lalle, this site is not supposed to be where you show off your greatest work and try to get a following, this is about improvement and helping others improve. Never ever edit something out and also upload everything, I know I sometimes think I really dont want to upload this when something is really bad but I always do. You're only lying to yourself otherwise. Please dont recommend people to edit stuff out Lalle.

    Anyway, that's not really relevant to you because based on your response you know all that. I admire you for going through with drawing now and chasing your dreams. Hard work and dedication is all it takes. Some great studies here, you seem to already have a really nice control over your lines which show through in your other drawings. The fact that you do those life drawings freehand without erasing shows this pretty well. I highly recommend that you start studying perspective, the still life pieces are nice but show a lack of knowledge about perspective. I personally am a massive fan of Scott Robertson's "How to Draw" but I know other people prefer Framed Perspective because apparently it's a little easier to swallow. Perspective will improve all your work because it is relevant to everything we draw. I hope you keep this up, don't give up even when you'll feel like it some times, it'll be worth it in the end. Good luck!
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