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    I admit I'm wrong.

    A while back there was a discussion here about what rights you have if you are in a "Work For Hire" situation. I claimed that even if you were doing this while you lost all rights and ownership of the work you retain the right to use the work for self promotion.

    Okay well I did the research and I was wrong, you don't, "Work for Hire" means you lose all rights. Period, not even self promotion.

    Apologies all around to those in the discussion.

    Rights to your work should be an important issue to all of us so I thought I would post this. Cheers.
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    This is an important issue to understand. With work for hire, the client is considered the legal author of the work for all purposes. While in many cases clients will allow work that was done as WFH to be used for self promotion, credit the original artist, etc, they are under absolutely no obligation to do so.

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    I TOLD you man.. I fucking told you!

    j/k

    This rights stuff is a real pain in the ass sometimes and the legal details are confusing. But hey, if any of us had all the answers to this stuff, we'd be lawyers and not starving artists.

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    Elwell is right, most part of the time, clients let's you use your work for self promotion...
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    Oh the shame of it all. Helix7, I remember, you were right......

    ...wait, wait. I'm going to adjust reality so that I was right and everyone else was wrong....Bsssssttt..... There much better, my bruised ego is successfully restored.
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    If anybody is pissed off about "Work for Hire" contracts which you should be, consider joining the Graphic Artists Guild. Part of your fee goes towards legislation fighting work for hire contract wording, plus you get a spiffy book.

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    Joeslucher, I agree with that wholeheartedly. I've got my copy right here.

    BTW does anybody else find it amusing that the cover to "The Graphic Artist's Guide To Pricing and Ethical Guidlines" is so graphics heavy that it's nearly unreadable. I've got the ninth edition, the cover hurts my eyes and makes me need to lie down.

    Before people start ripping me a new one for that comment, it's just meant as a humorous observation, my own worthless opinion, ect.. ect... No offense intended.
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    I got the tenth edition and the cover makes me sick to my stomach.

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    Your lucky the 10th edition cover was an improvement. I can read that one, barely.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the book, full of critical information, but it just seams an odd choice for the cover. Whenever I've done graphics work, clients have always insisted on a logical clear design and readability.
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    On the tenth edition there is type in 4 different colors and letters alternate in color. There's 4 different fonts not counting the logo, a bird with a piece of paper saying inspiration, "tic toc" or the artists signature. Thrown in a million and one symbols and colors that are completely saturated and you get nausea. The book is a must have but several times I've considered duct taping over the cover.

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    Another great site to learn more about rights, and other issues:

    http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/index.php

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