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    I_am's world - update 12-26-04

    I'm back!!! We've gotten settled into the new apartment and we just got the internet hooked back up. I decided to start a new thread to mark what is sort of a new start for me (and besides, the old thread had so much crap no one ever even looked at it anymore). I haven't had a whole lot of time to draw but I think I've spent it well, and I hope you guys agree. So this is what I've been working on guys and gals, rip it apart and make me better!!!!

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    Shading and rendering is your best skill. That creates the rest of your problems. Often people feel they can get away with a poorly drawn form by rendering the heck out of it to turn the form. Keep studying that anatomy. Be carefule of creating tangents like with the guy holding the axe, where the dark line between the sharp edge of the axe and shadow lines directly up with the dark line for the shoulder pad. This makes the axe difficult to read and flattens it out a lot there.
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    Thanks for the reply, Joe, and for the compliment (I think it was a compliment?) on my rendering. I know that alot of these are off, but I've done so many anatomy studies and applied what I've learned very little in imaginative work. I had to get these out of my system. I'll be doing alot more anatomical studies as time goes.

    Thanks alot for tip on the axe/shoulder pad thing! I hadn't noticed but you're absolutely right. Any other specific things that are off?

    thanks again for the reply.

    Here's a couple more I just scanned in.


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    That rib cage is pretty nice but the sternum is way too narrow. I could suggest a couple of books. John Cody's Visualizing Muscles is a must. Bridgeman's Drawing from Life is a must have as well.
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    I agree with Joe, the studies are coming along nicely but I'd like to see even more. Loads of imaginative sketching going on but I think you can still improve in many areas. For example, your faces/heads and overall human form. Draw some stuff from life and it doesn't hurt to photo ref something as long as you break it down and form it. Just make sure you're learning. I think you've got tons of potential! Keep it up and we'll all be drifting around to see what else you're going to send our way!
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    looking pretty cool there man i think u shud work on your faces a bit for example in one of the profile views the eye is too far to the right...if you look a t a skull the eye socket is further back
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    The Bone Doctor Bids you Welcome!!!!

    Welcome back Jack ~ keep on keepin' on ~ do not render what cannot be saved ~ spend more time doing mo drawings and less time rendering.
    Drawing and rendering are 2 separate issues actually. I great drawing does not need to be rendered much if any. The rendering pretty much takes care of itself when you capture the form.

    We tend to render a lot when we are trying to impress people who know nothing about art.

    Only show your work to other artist and you will get over that problem fast.

    People who know nothing about art are a waste of time and will screw up your mind. ONLY SEEK KNOWLEDGE FROM THE KNOWLEDGEABLE!!!!!

    Creatively,
    The Bone Doctor

    BS ~ Normal People Scare Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
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    LOL, this is great. In my first sketchbook thread, all I did were studies and everyone kept telling me to put to use what I'd learned and do more stuff from imagination. Now everyone's telling me to go back to studies!

    Just kidding, you guys. I know I have alot to work on and as you can see from my first thread here I actually do alot of studies. More than anything else, really. Still not too confident in my imaginative abilities. I really do appreciate everyone taking the time to reply, as well. I'll answer everyone individually.

    Joeslucher - Thanks for the tip on the sternum, I'll remember that. I have Bridgeman's book and I love it. That's actually what I started drawing from. I'll check out Cody's book when I have a little cash. Pretty much tapped out from the move right now. Thanks for the tip, though!

    Zebzfree - I know, you're right. Lots more studies for me. The head/face thing is my killer man. That's the only thing I've tackled thus far that's actually made me consider giving up. I just can't seem to visualize it as well as other parts of the body. And there are loads of other things that need work as well. Thanks tons for the encouragement, I appreciate it!

    Rodrigo - Definitely! Like I said, heads are my biggest weakness I think, with the eyes being the hardest part for me. I don't know why, but I just can't see it in my mind, which makes it impossible to draw well. I'll work harder! Thanks alot for taking the time to reply!

    Mentler - How's it going, man? I know, I know. But I wanted to practice rendering because I always seem to hit a wall with it. Maybe if the underlying form were better, eh? Alright, I promise no more over renderings, at least not for awhile. Strictly form and function for now. Oh, and I assure you I wasn't trying to impress anybody with these. Lol, I don't think that's possible.

    Hey, you got an good tutorials on heads/faces over at your site? I really got to get better at those.

    Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the comments/crits!
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    You want studies? You gots 'em! Combination of Bridgman, Sarah Simblet's illustrations from "Anatomy for the Artist", and my own imaginative studies. Trying to understand this thing we call a head. Why can't we jsut have a nice simply square on top of our spine, huh?

    BTW, sorry for half-assed quality of the scans. My scanner is being a little bitch right now.

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    Man you don't play around! Keep 'em up! i want MORE! LoL Check out KChens thread in best of CA section. He's got some great study stuff for figures and heads in that thread. It really helped me out.
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    Thanks, man, for the tip on Kchen's thread. Don't know how I ever missed that, but damn he's got skills. I'll have more pages tomorrow, and probably some from that thread. Right now, it's bed time though. Thanks for taking the time to reply!
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    Ran out of paper yesterday, and didn't get a new sketchbook til today. Only did one page so far though. God this is aggravating the hell out of me. I just can't seem to figure out the head/face.

    Anyway, studies from several sources including Kchen, Bridgman and my own imagination.

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    Cool stuff, I_Am!

    Good to see you working on those basic understructures. I still work on mine a lot, it's one of my biggest weaknesses. Another thing that helps is lots of quick gesture drawings. Just the fluid poses and basic bubbles and shapes, to get used to putting the figure in motion, focusing on weight distribution and balance of composition. Ive done tons of that, but need more. It also helps when you are putting together all the parts of the anatomy on one figure. Keeps all the shapes working in harmony when you see them all juxtaposed like that.

    I like the shading work, great job! And the alien looking dudes are sweet.

    Keep plugging away man! Cheers!~~~JadeDragon
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