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    Keep practicing man. I would suggest to keep working on basic shapes and perspective in conjunction with all that you're doing. You want to get yourself comfortable with these basic tools as they can be incredibly useful for you. As far as anatomy goes, first we want to break the body into masses. These are the areas which for the most part have a steady relationship within itself - head, rib cage, pelvis, upper leg, lower leg, foot, upper arm, lower arm, hand. You can use simple shapes like boxes or cylinders or whatever you want to get comfortable with this idea. Then you want to study the skeleton - get a good idea of how the bones are shaped and how they articulate with one another. From there, try to find a reference that'll show you origin and insertion points of the surface muscles. This way we can attach these muscles in whatever poses we like. We want to break the body down into units of forms, so we can pose it however we like and have a good idea of how it will look. I am hardly done studying anatomy myself, dunno if I ever will be hehe but I think this is a good approach.. Sometimes all this stuff will make your head spin but dont give up, I've noticed that sometimes on the first day of a new study I might have a hard time picking anything up at all.. but then I wake up the next day and some of it has sunk in, looking at the drawings again it starts to make some sense. Each time you do these studies, really try to grasp the form and volume of the subject - always analyze when drawing, even when copying others drawings, or else you will be stuck using your eyes and not your mind. Here is a little bit of a demo I made for StudioPC a little while ago, not really fleshed out was just sort of trying to convey the type of knowledge we are after http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../anat-demo.jpg . Anyways, just keep it up man. Hope this is some help to you.
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    This post made me smile because I started out a couple of months ago with 'drawing on the right side of the brain' too and I recognised some of your earlier exercises.
    Keep up the good work and draw, draw, draw - and as earlier advice said, draw from life. I find this very difficult but coupled with drawing from photos etc: its beginning to make more sense.
    Good luck on your journey.

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    Thanks for the posts everyone, it's very encouraging.

    Joeslucher: Thanks for the tip about just copying the drawing from bridgeman. I was kinda doing that, but I would only to it once and then move on. I like you idea of doing them over a few times.

    Yoell: I am gonna grab a few magazine and sketch from them, thanks for the tip. I am not very good with shading either, so maybe this wil force me to do it a bit. I also like the idea of forcing myself to draw things I don't want to.

    Some_Guy: Thanks for that explanation, and the link. I am going to practice getting those basic masses down right, and then I'll move from their.

    Madoliane: Yeah, that book is great. I am going to start drawing from life. I am kinda scared of it right now, so I don't do it. But, as Yoell said, I have to force myself to draw things I don't want.

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    Just because you took all the responses in the "How to get noticed thread" so seriously and cool, I'm commenting as well. It's true, with so many DSB it's hard to keep track.

    Good studies, keep em comming. Drawing with the right side of the brain is the shit, keep it up man ..

    If you haven't already, try get a copy of Loomis for the anatomy studys. Yoell's advise is too true, draw stuff you don't want to. I am still constantly catching myself on drawing too much of the same stuff which I, or my peer-group/audiance, think is cool. It makes you stagnate in your developement, be diverse!

    The arm/hand studies are comming along nicely. The portraits still need a lot of work. Don't be discouraged though. Do them from ref first before you try doing em all from you're imagination. Skull studies are important for this as well, it's so much easier to draw a head when you know what lyes beneath.

    Try to find life drawing classes in your area, it helps tons.
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    Thanks for all the advice Floris Didden. I have heard a lot of people saying to look at loomis and bridgeman. I have the bridgeman book, but I think that I will look at the loomis stuff as well, just because it is constantly being mentioned.

    I am going to look at those skull studies like you mentioned. I saw a bit in the bridgeman books, but I don't think the sketches were very detailed. I'll see if maybe it's in the loomis stuff.


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    Hey man, here's a tip about your tanks and drawing vehicles/objects in perspective generally. If you are going to actually plot your vanishing points and draw from them, space them much farther apart to achieve a more realistic look. Where your bottom guidelines intersect coming from the vanishing point there should be no less than a 90 degree angle where they join. Infact, the wider you make that angle, the better and more realistic it looks, but don't make it too wide or else it will distort the image. Later on when you get your perspective work down you can play with moving your vanishing points to force certain perspectives. Also, normally when designing such vehicles and whatnot, you really don't even want to plot your vanishing points, as they are usually so very far apart. Work instead on doing freehand perspective guides that aren't plotted but yet are accurate.

    Here is a perspective grid you can lay under a piece of paper and draw on top of. Blow it up or shrink it depending on your format. Most everything in the frame is within the cone of vision, so it should come in useful. Good luck.

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    Sweet. Thanks for the tips, and the grid. I am going to work on what you suggested.

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    Sanby - Sheridan Portfolio stuff, I need Help!

    latest sketches. I had a busy night tonight, so I didn't have time to work on everything suggested. This weekend I am going to work on some of what you all suggested.

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    These are some quick sketches out of a Skate Magazine. Some Gestures and trying to get the masses right. The Skate Magazine is great because their are many different dynamic poses from lot's of angles. (Plus skating just kicks ass) Top left corner is from a picture of bucky lasek
    Sanby - Sheridan Portfolio stuff, I need Help!

    I've drawn this arm now 4 times and it is just starting to have the right proportions.
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    Well, I have a week off school, so I'm going to Florida I won't be on for the next week, but when I get back I should have a big dump.

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    Good stuff man, I like what your doing. Keep up the good work and I'll check in on you again sometime soon to see whats new. Just keep hammering away at that anatomy!
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    i'll also be checking in on you to see how much you're improving since it gives me inspiration

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    Ok, I am back from Orlando, florida. I had a great time. I went to Universal and gator land, saw The Incredibles (Great movie) and went to the Vans Skatepark twice (sweet). Amongst all that, I didn't have very much time to draw. I did however manage to find a bit of time every morning before other people got up, and things were in full swing. Most of the time I sketched and started shading this skateboarder, out of a magazine. It still isn't finished, it's takeing me a really long time to shade, but I figure I'll take my time.

    Anyway, enough bla bla bla and more Pictures

    Bridgeman arms. Still drawing this stuff, it' s a lot of fun to do.
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    This is the skateboarder. (Thought it was bucky Lasek but now I don't think so)
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    This is the result of absolute boredom in math.
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    Man, I really need to learn how to scan stuff in right. It looks much better on paper. O well.

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    Kondor:Thanks for the comment, and it's great to hear that I am a tiny bit inspiring

    Brall: Thanks for tip, I will keep at the anatomy. Arghh, so much to tackle.

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    Yeah! By the time I got to the last post I was thrilled to see the progress. You're thinking in terms of what you actually see, not what expect, and it's inspiring to see that transformation.

    Keep up what you're already doing, draw more from life, and keep hitting the books.

    Well done. I'll be watching the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanby
    Bridgeman arms. Still drawing this stuff, it' s a lot of fun to do.
    as long as you stick with Bridgeman you can't go wrong! My recommendation to you is to not just study line use and study more volume in life. Think about each individual shape of the body. I was taught to think of different parts of the anatomy as things like cylinders, spheres, footballs, triangles etc. once I figured out thinking in 3d on paper my work improved at an incredible rate. Either way, keep at it man, your work will imrove with time, it doesn't happen over night
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