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    Update August 25 | Blackhawks' Crap

    Hey everyone. I think some of you may know me from the self-portrait thread, well, I've been on a hiatus, just started studying at Pantura studios in mid-august and have had a lot of stuff taking up my limited time. I just wanted to pop in and say hi and show what I've been working on these last 4 weeks or so. This is my first out of three Barque drawings I have to do. It's to about 99% completion. It's not perfect by any means. It was an incredibly time consuming exercise, I made a few mistakes on it that I hope not to repeat on my next two. I finished this drawing over the course of about 4 weeks. This was done using an H pencil.

    Step 1:
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    This is the end of the first stage. Just trying to establish a solid silhouette to the drawing before I moved inside. We weren't allowed to touch the inside until the outside of yours looked like the outside of the original.

    Step 2:
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    Trying now clearly define the shadow shapes. Right now they are just being roughed in in this picture. Unfortunately I had no camera for the subsequent stages after this where I had to refine those shapes. I'll try to get those on the next one.

    Step 3:
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    Shadow shapes in, first tone down, started a little modelling on the inside. At this stage it's just an overall tweaking. I had to constantly measure and fix shapes while modelling. Next time I'm going to try to fix the shapes a little more before moving this far, it was rought.


    Step 4:
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    About 99% done here. Some shapes in the bottom portion need tweaking as well as in the shoulder area. Overall the impression is there, it's not 100% perfect, but I learned quite a bit on this one. Hopefully I can do much better on this next one.

    Sorry about the poor pictures. Lighting was overkill in the first two for just the lines and then the light washed out everything on the last two. If you want details, let me know.
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    crap is the word. Its good to see what you've been up to. 4 weeks man, you are patient! But from what I heard from Jon...Hans is a real slavedriver! Thanks for posting this up, I'll be checking back for some more updates. I'm going to start a regular sketchbook in 3 weeks when I get down to Watts.

    Any word on SanFran from you and Jon?
    I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.

    http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-D...8951905&sr=8-1
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    The H pencil is deadly!!

    Good stuff, I remember doing the female one of the back. I can appreciate the hardwork put in for sure

    Good to see another barguer and serious student pursuing the proper training to become a master
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    BH great to see your Atelier stuff man! I'm excited to see more.
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    Great work blackhawk. Remember though its not about being perfect, its about learning. As long as you keep learning thats all that matters. If it came out perfect and you learned nothing from it then it didnt mean crap. Anyways, get your ass back to the self portrait section!!
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    I have to say...it is mr. blackhawk next to me in the atelier. He's as cool in real life as he is on the boards Tell them the truth Blackhawk...you came all the way to South Dakota to be near me...no need to hide it.
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    Thanks guys.

    Jetpack - Probably no San Francisco for me unless I can get sponsored or win the lottery, rob a bank, steal a bike, mug a few old ladies, sell my body, or any combination of thereof to get some extra cash. As it is now my budget is way too tight to fly to San Francisco and attend the workshop, even though I'd absolutely love to. I don't think it will happen.

    Endregan - Thanks. Yeah, the H is deadly. When I was told to use an H2 or an H, I was like "What? No, serious, nah!!" I was just so used to the HB+ stuff that I had no idea the kind of range and control an H has. Do you happen to have a picture of the one you did, I'd love to see it.

    Groover - Thanks man. I'm going to try to get more, can't promise much since it takes so long to do these. What I'd like to do is just some regular or twice weekly updates of my progress. This one should be done by Monday. I've already noticed a few more problem spots since looking at it on the computer.

    Matt - Oh, trust me, I've learned a lot I've learned I can work on a drawing for more than 6 hours, I've learned I can actually control a pencil better than I thought I could, and I think I could draw a flawless human back after staring at this Barque for 8 hours everyday for weeks. lol. I've already noticed a much tighter control of my values and my hand in my imaginative stuff. As soon as I get a small mirror for my desk in my living room and the time, I'll be doing the self-portrait stuff again. I'd love to start again, see if my training so far has any improvements in store for my SP's.

    MindCandy - Yes Jon, you and only you!! lol. I tried finishing the apple today after Annie helped me with it and you left, I think I flung more crap on the canvas again, it fell apart. We need to do color charts bad.
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    Im so proud of you. I cant wait to see where your path will lead over the next few years.

    you are setting a great example for willingness to work hard to develop your eye and hand. nicely done.


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    dang! and i was soo looking forward to seeing the pictures nate


    well i hope you repost 'em cause man, i gots to see your progress!
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    hey, y ou can check out the old bargue thread here http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12104
    witness my attempts at training my eye with no instructor haha

    When you and jon are done you gotta shape my ass into gear hahah
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    Jason - Thanks, I can't tell you how much it means to have you say that. I definitely appreciate it, hopefully in a few years I'll be acouple notches above where I'm at now. I wish I could have seen you guys again San Francisco again, but I'm stuck in South Dakota in the meantime. If I land some money down the road, I'll try to see you guys at your next one after this.

    Injection - Hmm, sorry you can't see them. I don't see any red x's, anyone else having problems?

    Endregan - Yeah, I saw it thanks. Biggest thing I see is taking your time, moving from one step to the next after you finish one. I felt the urge countless times to go inside the silhouette for the first week and half, but I knew I'd probably have a paint brush jammed through my eye if I did that. It's just exhibiting patience, and really working at it until it's perfect. Every concave line needs to be concave, not convex. Every little angle, notch, curve, has to be spot on. I spent a day making 3mm long lines in the drawing look the same from one to the other. It's amazing at how badly things can get screwed up at the size of these drawings when your off by a millimeter. It really makes all the difference to really get these perfect within such tight areas.

    Endregan, or anyone for that matter, I would be more than happy to help you more if you want to pm or e-mail me or something, I'd be happy to help you out and get you started on the right track. Just let me know and we'll get started. E-mail is nate@snitzerart.com I don't think I have it in my profile yet.
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    Finished drawing of the first Barque...

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    Second Barque I've started...

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    And an apple study I did last weekend for a few hours...

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    Oh, and a value study I did en plein air for a few hours...

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    Sorry for the larger images.
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    n ow that's what i'm talking about!!!



    man nate, you're doin quite well there, keep it up man cause you're gonna go far!!!

    cheers mate
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