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    12 Monkeys

    I just finished watching this movie again, and I gotta say its one of my favorite movies. The plot, the uncertainty of the whole thing....i love it. Anyways, there's always one small confusing thing to me about the whole movie. At the end of the film, when the scientist guy with the virus gets on the plane and meets the lady, who says she's in insurance, it turns out to be the same lady that's a scientist in the future, where they're sending Cole back and forth. This confuses me because I'm not sure if they're trying to point out that she was involved in the spreading of the virus, or she somehow has something to do with it. Can anyone explain this to me?

    I love weird movies like this 12 monkeys. Has anyone seen "the Game" with Michael Douglas? I love that movie too....anyways, if anyone has some weird movies similar to these or an answer to my question, please share. Maybe we can get a list of cool weird movies goin on here.

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    I went on a search for the answer to my question and found this at this site

    Does the Insurance lady know she's sitting next to the apocalyptic nut?

    Most likely. For one thing, you can really see the look of distaste on her face. Also, she probably said she was "in insurance" as a pun; most people in the newsgroups think she was there as insurance against James' failing to collect a pure sample of the virus.

    Here is some more detail from Eric M. Bram (gradivus@dreamscape.com):

    About the woman on the plane at the end -- the "insurance" comment probably didn't refer to "in case Cole fails," but in the larger sense of insurance for the future to overcome the plague. The future scientists probably only learned for sure who the carrier was after seeing what happened to Cole (whom he was chasing when he died), and must have arranged her visit afterward.

    Also, I believe that she succeeded in her task by stealing one or two of the virus cannisters from the uniplaguer's carry-on luggage during the flight. My evidence is that the list of places the uniplaguer was planning to visit during the 1-week virus incubation period (as listed by the airline ticket agent) was about 2 cities longer than the list of "places the plague broke out" memorized by Cole.

    If anyone else is interested about the odd events and has questions, I suggest checking out that site. It has some great answers to all types of questions!

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    Here's a list of movies that Ive found that seem to be in a similar category with 12 monkeys.
    -The Game
    -The Butterfly Effect
    -The Fifth Element
    -Unbreakable
    -Seven
    -Darkcity(Ive never seen it all, just bits and pieces)
    -Gattaca
    -Donnie Darko (amazon.com recommends it, but Ive never seen it)
    -Fight Club
    -The sixth sense
    -Minority Report
    -A.I ( I only liked some parts of this movie, it was waaaaaay too long.)
    -Mad Max Trilogy
    -28 days later
    -Mary Shelley's Frankenstein( I love this movie!)
    -The Matrix
    -Akira
    -Contact
    -Vanilla Sky( Ive never seen it, but its mentioned on Amazon. Does anyone recommend this movie?)
    -When Dreams may come

    These are just some of the movies Ive seen, and now looking at my dvd list, I have to get like just about all of them. does anyone else have any other movies they'd like to add to the list, or comment about?

    Not just movies either, but what about books. I'd like to read some good sci-fi books somehow related to the genre of movies I mentioned above. Helium Macaroni suggested 1984, and ive only read about 5 pages for an assignment once, so I think I'm going to get that.

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    I've seen Vanilla Sky. Uhmmm, how to define it... first I haven't like it. It's confuse, to say the less. If you want to see it, go with the original, not this remake
    See Darkcity! It's worth it! Donnie Darko too... DD has a really atmosphere
    If you like those kind of strange atmosphere, try to watch Shadow of The Vampire. Really great film Pi too can fall in this category I think.
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    "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" has some 12 monkeys and Matrix elements! (*)

    (*) Not to be taken too seriously.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096928/board/nest/2294936

    Edit:
    More serious ... I think the game Dreamweb had such elements.
    Would have been great as a movie IMO.

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    Not sure if you've seen Ghost in the Shell. Both the movie (1st one, haven't get the chance to see the 2nd one) and comics are great. I heard the TV series also rocks.

    Serial Experiments Lain is a anime series that is damn weird and deals with alternate realities (the wired world and the real world). It can be slow but is very memorable.

    For super uber-weirdness, watch David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. That movie drive me nuts
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    you should see Donnie Darko i.was.ink

    I don't care at all of The Game, if any of that was believable I would have killed my brother without hesitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwo
    I don't care at all of The Game, if any of that was believable I would have killed my brother without hesitation.
    lol

    I'll see donnie darko. thx for the suggestions people. Keep em coming!
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    Hahah.

    I like 12 Monkeys also but, I hate to break it to you but,...The story truly makes no sense. HAhhahahah.

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    i'ma watch it again, but i didnt think it made any sense either. but it was damned sexy
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    i.was.ink, when you want to see Vanilly Sky you also have to see Open your eyes - which is the Spanish (?) original by Alejandro Amenábar. Funny thing is that both movies are with Penelope Cruz in the main female role.

    IMO Tom Cruise at his best! (I'm usually *not* a fan of him!)

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